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Post by vaporvac on Jan 10, 2017 18:30:07 GMT -5
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Post by vaporvac on Jan 10, 2017 18:33:02 GMT -5
They also had this pot, but I don't know its actual purpose. I didn't need these, so didn't buy them, but I'm weakening. Maybe when I go back in a couple of weeks.
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Post by Chuckie on Jan 10, 2017 19:07:19 GMT -5
While shopping at a Mexican store in Indy, I spied these adorable enamel pots that would be perfect for the Twell as they the right size, have a removable bale handle, and are CHEAP. Even if one's local Mexican store doesn't carry them they are easily found on the web, but more expensive. Tres is another brand.They also had really nice terra cotta cazuelas that could be use instead of a regular bean pot or casserole in the Twell and teflon griddles that were exactly the right size. www.mipatria.com/enamel-products.htmlAnd they WILL fit? I might be tempted IF so... CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by vaporvac on Jan 10, 2017 20:22:31 GMT -5
Oh, yes. They'll fit. I didn't have a measure, but the small one is about 6" across and the larger is about 8" or a bit more with the bale. I can measure them in a couple of weeks if you like. I have a bale handle on my SS pressure cooker hack, but I turn them inwards which make them easier to attach and gives more space. I haven't seen them in any of my Mexican local stores and I've been looking! Aren't they cute? Wish I could post pics to the Rangers site, but dropbox no longer supports my Mac. : (
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Post by nana on Jan 11, 2017 16:13:00 GMT -5
They are sweet and they're blue! Marilyn says she wants some, but only so many twell pots will fit in my sevice cabinet...My husband got me a stainless steel camping pot with a bail handle for Christmas that fits in the well, about three and a half quarts. The only thing I'm really looking for would be a 6 or 7 quart pot, like the large single in enamel or stainless. Were any of those mexican pots that big?
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Post by vaporvac on Jan 11, 2017 16:33:17 GMT -5
Nana, I saw them that big at another store in Indy, so I could take look again. spome of the Mexican cookware sites only have the bigger ones for sale, but no for $12! I'm such a cheapskate! I have a SS Chambers Twell pot, but it's actually just on loan until my PICC remembers he left it with me : ), but I love these two smaller sizes as I tend to cook to the size of the pot. I don't really care if it's SS so long as it's a non-reactive coating without hotspots. I just dream of carrying these to the table with beans or soup. BTW, they also come in other adorable colors such as yellow, blk/white and speckled!
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Post by karitx on Jan 12, 2017 14:34:53 GMT -5
A local grocery store had tamale steamers by that company last year at Christmas. I was tempted to buy one because it was so ridiculously cheap and I loved the color, but it was huge! I'm pretty sure it would have covered everything but the griddle on Betty.
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Post by nana on Jan 12, 2017 20:54:10 GMT -5
I try and try to escape this cookware acquisition spiral, but I always get sucked back in. I wish I had the intestinal fortitude to get rid of the things that I have but don't really use that often. (Or at all, if I'm being honest about some of it.) But a large pot is something I think I would use frequently enough to justify it...but definitely in blue, if I do. And remember, I'm a cheapskate too!
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Post by vaporvac on Jan 25, 2017 0:03:36 GMT -5
I went there again today. I'll post the sizes tomorrow when I have them at hand. Nana, they had a large one that will fid with the lid inverteted "I think". I'll have to double check. I think I may get the 4 qt when I go in two weeks. I'm definietly weakening and it's a size I don't have. Plus, it's so freaking cute!
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Post by vaporvac on Jan 25, 2017 14:36:51 GMT -5
The two I posted above would fit, but the 4qt MAY need its lid inverted. It's close. I'm going to take my Twell pot next time to compare since it's max dimensions of the well. The 4qt is ~8.66" handle to handle, but about 8.5" rim-to-rim. The pot itself is slightly smaller so it will fit and allow good air flow. With the lid it was between 7.5 and 7.75 tall. It was hard to get an accurate measurement. I probably should have bought it and returned it if it didn't fit. I think these are great medium and small sized pots that would work well as non-reactive substitutes.
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Post by nana on Jan 25, 2017 19:00:24 GMT -5
I made turkey/barley soup yesterday(Snow day! Kids aren't the only ones who put their jammies on inside out, FYI!) and would have put tomatoes in it too, but did not have a big enough non reactive pot. The stainless camping pot I got for Christmas is only 3 qts, and I wanted to make enough to bring over to my dad's. Do they make a 5 or 6 qt that would fit?
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Post by vaporvac on Jan 26, 2017 13:54:26 GMT -5
Nana, this store had 1 qt, 4qt and 8qt. They may make something in between, but they didn't stock it. In fact, I've never seen these in all my Mexican grocery shopping. On their site they also show blk/white, red, and mint green! On an older site I saw they also made them in yellow! Uggh! All the Chambers colors except my copper. : ( The terra cotta casuelas are also really nice with handles that would enable one to grab them easily. Most of this type of pottery is low-fire and made for use with direct flame so it should be good in the Twell on a FlameTamer.
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Post by evangeline on Mar 18, 2017 22:58:15 GMT -5
Ok, went to local Mexican grocery today, no luck. Also checked out the asian groceries. No luck. For grins I got in interwebs and looked for Cinsa ware & only found the 10-quart pot on various merchandizing sites. ?? The Cinsa homepage didn't list the smaller pots. What?? Vaporvac, maybe you found a source of dead stock?? Or is my search technique putrid? I did find this: www.lehmans.com/product/royal-blue-enamelware-kettle-with-lid/pots-pans0.d. Listed as approx 8". Yikes, how approximate?
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Post by evangeline on Mar 18, 2017 23:15:40 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure there's a thread on camp pots for the well. Was searching through the Zebra billy can products but the lid clips are plastic. Darn! Stainless Steel, too.
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Post by vaporvac on Mar 19, 2017 11:07:42 GMT -5
Evangeline, the MEXICAN website shows them in all the colors; only the beautiful yellow is discontinued. I'll find the site in a bit. I've only ever seen them in this one store in Indy (and I visit MANY Mexican stores) which is why I offered to get them if anyone is interested, but a local store may be willing to order them in.
I'm liking the Zebra billy pot. I wonder how much heat the plastic clips would survive? Hmmm. looking around the web, it appears the plastic clips are newer and for using the pot as a lunch box. They will melt apparently. However, one UK site said an upgraded metal clip is available as an add-on, so perhaps that's something to look for or try to retrofit. Nice looking pots with an insert. My only other question is how much space the handle takes when down as it doesn't seem to be removable.
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Post by mach12 on Mar 19, 2017 11:32:59 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure there's a thread on camp pots for the well. Was searching through the Zebra billy can products but the lid clips are plastic. Darn! Stainless Steel, too. The billy cans are pretty popular around here with campers and backpackers and I see a lot of them. They discontinued the lid clips, I'm pretty sure, and the new ones don't have any at all. People got tired of cleaning melted plastic off the pots, though they apparently made some interesting colored flames in the campfire.
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Post by vaporvac on Mar 19, 2017 14:33:22 GMT -5
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Post by evangeline on Mar 19, 2017 19:56:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure there's a thread on camp pots for the well. Was searching through the Zebra billy can products but the lid clips are plastic. Darn! Stainless Steel, too. The billy cans are pretty popular around here with campers and backpackers and I see a lot of them. They discontinued the lid clips, I'm pretty sure, and the new ones don't have any at all. People got tired of cleaning melted plastic off the pots, though they apparently made some interesting colored flames in the campfire. So confusing. . . Some pics show the billy cans inserted horizontally in the camp stove, so they have to have a clip or else. . . . Maybe tomorrow I'll call around to see if they've replaced the plastic clips w/metal. And if the handles can be removed. Vaporvac, thanks for the link. Eager know what you find. I don't have a single pot & such a thing would be v. Useful.
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Post by mach12 on Mar 20, 2017 0:22:31 GMT -5
Well that's cool! They have come up with new clips. I just looked on Amazon and they show them. It looks as if the handle still has to be there though. My wife's the camp cooking guru around our house (she actually teaches it) and when I did a search and found some good links on the new clips I got all excited and showed her. She looked up from her handwork and said "you didn't know about that?". Man do I feel behind the times.
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Post by evangeline on Mar 20, 2017 8:43:40 GMT -5
Well that's cool! They have come up with new clips. I just looked on Amazon and they show them. It looks as if the handle still has to be there though. My wife's the camp cooking guru around our house (she actually teaches it) and when I did a search and found some good links on the new clips I got all excited and showed her. She looked up from her handwork and said "you didn't know about that?". Man do I feel behind the times. Wow, cool. Do you think the company would consider shipping units without the handles? Surely they get damaged & have to be removed from time to time. Or perhaps they can be removed by people who are clever with tools? (Um, not me. . .) Oh, wait. Just looked on Ben's backwoods website. The large pot is 7.25" I put a half-inch jar lid in the well, under a half-pot. Ohhh. The lid won't quite drop down. Darn. Darn! Maybe Ben will have an alternative. . . .
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Post by mach12 on Mar 20, 2017 12:19:15 GMT -5
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Post by evangeline on Mar 20, 2017 13:35:29 GMT -5
Grrr. At home today, waiting for handy man who has not shown up. !!!!
Maybe my problem would be solved with $. I don't have a single pot & that's why I'm on the lookout. I suppose I can buy one from Don. But would like heavier metal, as others have noted. Wish list:
SS or thick anodized aluminum. Cast iron even, although I'm not such a fan as others.
Locking lid w/ flat handle on lid to lift out, or removable bail. I saw on Ben's Backwoods website you can buy a bail attachment. Assuming the bail could be pinched on/off. . .
The large zebra billy can is perfect. Except it's a skosh too tall. ;-(
The Idle Hour cookbook notes that you can leave the lid off of the pots & still use the T-well cover. . . . But Tod White and others have noted that this is a recipe for getting moisture into your lid and *Bam*. So uninterested in a pot with a secure lid.
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Post by mach12 on Mar 20, 2017 14:14:26 GMT -5
I think the moisture issue is more awareness than anything or the recipes in the Chambers literature wouldn't work, especially the ones for the Thermobaker where they cook in open pans and dishes. The most important thing is to never, ever submerse the t-well lid. I think you're fine following the steps in the Chambers literature. I have one that has moisture in it that I'm going to play with by drilling a small vent hole in and then putting on a stove and see both how it affects t-well temperatures and how it dries out. I've seen similar lids on commercial steamers and cookers and they have a small vent hole so I figured it'd be worth playing with since I have the one that was on a stove that sat out under a sprinkler system. I wouldn't be concerned if you're following the steps and recipes in the Chambers literature.
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Post by vaporvac on Mar 20, 2017 14:50:25 GMT -5
evangeline, did you ever see my thread on the SS pressure cooker with bale handle the we turned into a single. It's worked REALLY well and has a super thick bottom. It's what I use most often, although the new smaller blue one is perfect for thinner mixes. My main concern with wanting the SS and porcelain is the taste transfer with acidic dishes from aluminum. I use my aluminum single for beans and such, but it seems most everything I cook has acid of some sort.
I agree with mach12. It's hard to know to what hardships our lids have been exposed. I also think one poster had cooked their entire dish with the Twell flame on instead of CWTGTO for at least part of it.
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Post by evangeline on Mar 20, 2017 17:33:50 GMT -5
Hi, VV. Going to go back and read your thread. You probably licked this one a while ago. . . ;-)
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Post by vaporvac on Mar 21, 2017 19:31:32 GMT -5
OK, Kiddos. i spoke to Diego at the CinsaUSA headquarters and he gave me the number for La Fortuna, their Midwest importer out of Chicago. It's 773-247-6860. They should be able to tell one what stores they sell to and even what they stock. I didn't know what other areas to mention and I don't know if LF's territory covers more than the Midwest.It's a place to start in anycase. If you'd like to find other distributors for yourself, CinsaUSA's # is (210) 490-4620. Ask for Diego. They sell all over the USA, even in Maine! He was really nice and friendly, especially when I said all they colours matched our stoves. I wish I had a pink Chambers to go with the dusty pink pots. Is anyone else smitten with the Day of the Dead and Gallos enamelware dishes? I also really love the tea kettle and stovetop coffee pots.
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Post by evangeline on Mar 22, 2017 7:13:35 GMT -5
Good work VV! Yes, the Dead and Gallos graphics were fab. Especially the Gallos. Wow, works of art. I love enamelware. Why is that? I used to make spouse eat in the back yard just so I could use my plates and bowls. ("Can I go in now?")
Also trying not to start collecting stove top coffee pots. ;-)
Strangely, I found a similar pot (Hecho en Mexico) at a fleatique last night - medium blue speckled, bail handle - but it was TOO TALL. Boo. Did find a charming clamp-lid pudding mold for $3.
Next stop big thrift stores in the 'burbs for pressure cooker liners.
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Post by wizardoftrance on Mar 23, 2017 14:35:02 GMT -5
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Post by evangeline on Mar 23, 2017 18:47:49 GMT -5
Hmm, Wizard, those look promising! I'd cook in such a bowl. The Zebra's a no-go. Ben of Ben's Backwoods called me back. The handle must be up for the lid to lock. So there you have it.
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Post by vaporvac on Mar 23, 2017 19:42:34 GMT -5
Wot, those are super nice. We had posted a discussion on tiffin a couple of years ago and the problem was the ones we were interested in said not to use over a flame as they were airtight. I think that's what the issue was, anyway. However, if you're using them for oatmeal they should work. Do you bring your oatmeal to a boil before CWTGTO or just put it directly in the well? Any problem with the silcon seal melting? Is the seal removable? It's great having all these options. Sorry about the Zebra; it looked so promising.
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