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Post by Chuckie on May 14, 2017 22:00:03 GMT -5
Well, Monkey's bro moved back and bought a "new" (to THEM) farmhouse. It is actually maybe 15/20 years old??? Anyhow, I have been searching for one of these for YEARS as the "focal point" on a kitchen restoration in our 1882 bungalo (that is, before the Chambers craze! ) The former owners left it in the basement, and told him "oh, BELIEVE ME, it cost a TON to restore, you could get a FORTUNE for that on cragislist!" Then said B.I.L. proceeds to tell Monkey & I they have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in it, we can HAVE it!!! He went on to say "no rush, we have TONS of room in this house, we can store it until you're ready for it"...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I felt like I thought I would when I would hit the LOTTERY!!! NO remodel in our "immediate" future, but we'll see---especially when the IMPERIAL is done this August!! CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by mach12 on May 14, 2017 23:06:18 GMT -5
That's identical to the sink in the first house we owned and we loved it. Perfect for giving the babies a bath too. Congratulations on the great find!
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Post by pooka on May 15, 2017 5:01:03 GMT -5
That is beautiful! Well..., in a sense you did hit the lottery after a fashion. You could have looked for ages, & never found such a prize as this. Count your blessing & contemplate your plans for when you can install it. I'd love to have one like it, but I'd never rip out the original cabinets in the upstairs kitchen to put one like it in. It's way too nice for my basement kitchen. I've got a similar one, albeit smaller I picked up years ago that's sitting out by the garage, but I'd have to spend a fortune to get it redone in order to rival yours. The best I'll ever do is give it a good scrubbing & touch up, & make do. Chuckie, you must be livin' right to have such good luck. Perhaps it's just the luck of the Irish as they say.
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Post by evangeline on May 15, 2017 7:50:17 GMT -5
Gorgeous! And so practical. Can't work one into my new kitchen but I would if I could! Especially getting the plumbing up off the counter.
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Post by pooka on May 15, 2017 11:33:51 GMT -5
Especially since most people have dishwashers today, so a kitchen sink aren't used to wash dishes anymore, a sink like this is more practical than you'd think. People forget that in the eras when these sinks were used, you'd have a wash basin full of soapy water that you'd sit in a sink like this. Then you'd wash a dish in the basin, turn the water on to rinse, then either dry it, or place it in a drying rack on the drainboard. Later the double sinks became popular, where you'd have one bowl to wash, one to rinse, then you'd either dry the dish, or place it in a drying rack on the counter that has a shallow tray bellow it that drains back into the rinse sink. How many times have you seen an old movie where someone will say when dishes are to be washed after supper, I'll wash, & you can dry, or they ask, do you want to wash or dry. Doing dishes was often a two person job. Here's a pic of a sink similar to Chuckies new one. I posted it on the other site. I saved it because it shows the corner of a model B in the bottom corner. You see the little pan on the window sill. That's a triangular perforated pan that you'd put in the corner of the sink next to your separate wash basin. It was to put food scraps into as you'd wash. When you were done, you'd dump the scraps into the garbage pail beneath the sink. Back then, you had the pail for garbage & a waste basket for paper trash.
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Post by nana on May 15, 2017 17:23:28 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you DO wash all your dishes by hand as I do since we don't have a dishwasher, those cast iron porcelained sinks are absolute hell on your dishes. You will break and chip your glasses and dishes every time they slip in your soapy hands. Stainless steel may be charmless, but it is much more forgiving! That being said, it is a pretty thing, and if you have a dishwasher for the real daily work, it will definitely add to the ambiance in your kitchen.
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Post by Chuckie on May 15, 2017 18:04:17 GMT -5
Here's a pic of a sink similar to Chuckies new one. I posted it on the other site. I saved it because it shows the corner of a model B in the bottom corner. Pooka: Dwayner can attest, I have that EXACT STOVE out in the garage, awaiting restoration!! Black handles and all!! Maybe I should put THAT one in!! CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by Chuckie on May 15, 2017 22:17:57 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you DO wash all your dishes by hand as I do since we don't have a dishwasher, those cast iron porcelained sinks are absolute hell on your dishes. You will break and chip your glasses and dishes every time they slip in your soapy hands. Stainless steel may be charmless, but it is much more forgiving! That being said, it is a pretty thing, and if you have a dishwasher for the real daily work, it will definitely add to the ambiance in your kitchen. THAT'S why my Mamma ALWAYS had a flat rubber sink mat in her old (porcelain) cast sink. Five (clumsy-- MY adjective! ) daughters broke a LOT of "unbreakable" Corningware over the years.. CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by wizardoftrance on May 16, 2017 0:04:06 GMT -5
They are a nice sink! Good for you!
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Post by evangeline on May 16, 2017 6:43:28 GMT -5
Nana, I hear you. Am struggling w/my dislike of SS versus its practical benefits.
Somewhat unrelated: I find it hilarious that the stores now want to sell you steel racks to protect the bottom of your SS sink (read that in italics). Ok I guess if I drop a Dutch oven from shoulder height I might make a dent...but over the years my sink's been the aggressor 99% of the time. I rented a manhattan apt for vaca once and the sink had so many gizmos I had to do a second round of washing to get the lettuce out of the wires and thingies.
Have we gone mad? 😬
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Post by pooka on May 16, 2017 8:45:14 GMT -5
Many of the newer "stainless steel" sinks sold today are such low grade, having very low nickel content, they're just barely considered stainless. Plus, they are such thin gauge, if you were to drop a heavy dutch oven on edge into them, you may punch a hole in them. I guess that's what the wire racks they sell for the bottom are to guard against this kind of mishap. I'll bet my old sink upstairs is twice as thick a gauge as most sold today. If you are to buy a new one today, make sure it's a heavier gauge if you can. It may cost you more, but it's worth it as far as durability.
I picked up a used one someone was throwing out, thinking I might reuse it, or sell it for scrap. When I took it to the junk yard, they said they didn't consider it as stainless as far as scrap prices. They test it with a magnet. If it is magnetic, it's considered just steel. If it is not magnetic, then it is considered stainless. They pay a premium for stainless. For just plain scrap steel the price is quite low.
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Post by mach12 on May 16, 2017 11:02:16 GMT -5
We really struggled with what sink to put in and were going to just stick with the stainless sink we have right now but ended up going with the Domsjo double bowl apron front sink Ikea sells (www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S69158173/).
We took out the dark root beer colored enameled cast iron sink that was in the house when we bought it and put in the stainless sink. It has held up well over the past 19 years but it does have a couple of dents and scratches. It's a good quality, deep bowl, and the heaviest gauge stainless steel I could find at the time but we've rented this place a couple of times when my job had me living overseas and if it can be damaged, some renters seem to find a way.
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Post by pooka on May 16, 2017 18:57:23 GMT -5
I've contemplated what to replace my upstairs sink with should I ever replace the counter top. I favor the Ikea VATTUDALEN sink or something similar from another manufacturer. Perhaps one with a double bowl with drain board. VATTUDALEN Single bowl top mount sink, stainless steelThese are some of my fantasy sinks that I've search out when I went looking some time ago. The first one on the left is a Monel sink from the first part of the last century. It's an alloy of equal part of nickel and copper developed back then. If you find a vintage one, they cost a kings ransom unfortunately. The next one on the right is a stainless school lab sink I ran across on Craigslist near the east cost. The other two are more recent ones that are just about ideal to me, but as with many things for me, they most likely are just pipe dreams for me to ponder. Here's a pic of Georgia O'Keeffe's Kitchen Sink at her Ghost Ranch from 1975. It looks remarkably similar to Chuckie's new prize. Here she is in that kitchen in 1962. Note the little 24" gas stove behind her. This will become of interest in the next few pics. She died in 1986, & later her Ghost Ranch pictured above was made into a museum. They spruced it up & sanitized it for public consumption rather than leave it in it's original gritty state from when she was living there. Here's what it looks like now. Behold what stove they chose for their idealize version of her kitchen. Now we come full circle back to what interests us most. They chose a 61-C Chambers stove to replace her original little apartment sized stove that I guess it wasn't glitzy enough for their museum. As you can see, there's a bedroom through the doorway bellow. Tack on a workshop & a modest bathroom on the back of these rooms, & you'd have a palace where I could live contented in forever more. This is the pantry seen though the doorway in the first pic. I doubt these rooms ever looked this tidy when she lived there. This shows the difference between reality & the sanitized fantasy of historic places we may visit in our travels.
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Post by evangeline on May 16, 2017 21:25:13 GMT -5
That monel sink! I've seen one of those recently, in a client's 'warm' pantry! The house was built by a magnate during prohibition, with a basement speak-easy. The client thought the sink is SS but it doesn't look like steel at all. Love the curves!
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Post by pooka on May 18, 2017 9:34:06 GMT -5
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Post by pattyhunny on May 18, 2017 12:43:00 GMT -5
Nice sink chuckle! In the pictures pooka posted, the first one looks unusual but I'm not familiar with it, I know a couple people mentioned it. When I have time I will have to google it. I am finding out about way too much stuff that keeps getting added to the someday list. Haha
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Post by nana on May 18, 2017 14:12:07 GMT -5
Nice sink chuckle! In the pictures pooka posted, the first one looks unusual but I'm not familiar with it, I know a couple people mentioned it. When I have time I will have to google it. I am finding out about way too much stuff that keeps getting added to the someday list. Haha It happens to all of us and then we do it to one another! Go find something really cool but unusual, post about it, and Chuckie may call you an "evil Chambers wench". Then you'll know you have arrived!
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Post by Chuckie on May 19, 2017 23:28:25 GMT -5
Nice sink chuckle! In the pictures pooka posted, the first one looks unusual but I'm not familiar with it, I know a couple people mentioned it. When I have time I will have to google it. I am finding out about way too much stuff that keeps getting added to the someday list. Haha It happens to all of us and then we do it to one another! Go find something really cool but unusual, post about it, and Chuckie may call you an "evil Chambers wench". Then you'll know you have arrived! ...the Defense RESTS, your Honor... CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by Chuckie on May 27, 2017 9:46:03 GMT -5
That is beautiful! Well..., in a sense you did hit the lottery after a fashion. You could have looked for ages, & never found such a prize as this. Count your blessing & contemplate your plans for when you can install it. I'd love to have one like it, but I'd never rip out the original cabinets in the upstairs kitchen to put one like it in. It's way too nice for my basement kitchen. I've got a similar one, albeit smaller I picked up years ago that's sitting out by the garage, but I'd have to spend a fortune to get it redone in order to rival yours. The best I'll ever do is give it a good scrubbing & touch up, & make do. Chuckie, you must be livin' right to have such good luck. Perhaps it's just the luck of the Irish as they say. There is an ad on our local craigslist, "This Week Only" sale for restored sinks. Lists a facebook page (paramount re-glaze) to get details, and we don't facebook... kansascity.craigslist.org/atq/6149977560.htmlThere are a coupla sorta similar to yours, pooka... CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by pooka on May 27, 2017 12:22:44 GMT -5
Yeah Chuckie, they've got some good looking sinks at pretty reasonable prices. There's a double drainboard one similar to my downstairs sink for $150. They are apparently a powder-coating business. I don't know how that stuff holds up to every day wear & tear. Here's a link to their Facebook pics. Paramount Re-glaze on Facebook - pics
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