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Post by evangeline on Feb 4, 2017 10:57:20 GMT -5
Hi. Procrastinating on a Saturday morning, cleaning out my pantry & enjoying my collection. . . For some reason Martha Stewart never blew up the market for these things. The sweet spot is $1 - $3. My rule is nothing over $10, and I must have visited the state or place. Otherwise, things could get out of hand. ;-) Friends request 'their' plate. Of course my Oregonian pals get Oregon. The Johnson Brothers plates are amazingly beautiful. Others sort of all over the map, from fine drawing to the 'chuckles.' (Not to pick on Ohio but featuring a tire is kinda weird.) Most of these are serving ware. Only a few have the wall hangers & those are destination or attraction souvenirs.
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Post by evangeline on Feb 4, 2017 11:01:21 GMT -5
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Post by nana on Feb 4, 2017 12:21:10 GMT -5
Those are really beautiful! What a neat collection!
Dayton, Ohio makes a lot of tires, according to my husband. I guess they are, or were, important enough to merit a place of honor on the state plate.
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Post by pooka on Feb 4, 2017 12:26:31 GMT -5
Anything to bring a smile to our face. We live to be happy. Low art or high. I like art that evokes strong emotions. I recently found this water color at the thrift store for $4. I wondered about it's origin, & after a little research found the article that follows. One of your plates would be a prized possession for people like this living on the edge.
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Post by nana on Feb 4, 2017 20:46:29 GMT -5
What time period was that article from? I would guess depression era from the sad stories. However did you suss out that information from the picture? I've said it before and I'll say it again--your research skills are second to none, Pooka!
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Post by nana on Feb 4, 2017 20:49:48 GMT -5
I suppose there were cheap tacky souveniers available back in the day too, but somehow I don't think there are too many nowadays that match up in sheer prettiness to your plates, Evangeline!
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Post by evangeline on Feb 4, 2017 22:14:41 GMT -5
Nana, thanks! Collecting plates has kept me out of trouble in the fleatiques over the years. Now I also look for cookware, which can be more than $3. ;-). Good to know about the Dayton tire industry. But don't you think they could put the tire on the outer ring?? But let me not run Ohio down. . . . The Great State of NY is represented by the Empire State Building and a pretty swell Niagra Falls. But no Syracuse, or Rochester, no Buffalo, no Utica or Albany or Saranac. What gives?? Maybe I need to do a run on Route 20 this summer. . . My Pittsburgh plate is too ridiculous to photograph.
Pooka: what Nana says. Someone watched those houseboats float in a storm. How did you know??
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Post by pooka on Feb 5, 2017 2:27:29 GMT -5
Those plates can be a fascinating way to learn little tidbits about the tourist high points from bygone eras of the two lane highways before the interstates were a thing. I see them from time to time, but they never really sparked an interest with me. They seem too nice to use, but not my kind of wall decor. That article about the houseboats is from April 10, 1957 believe it or not. This pic is from April 30, 1957 when the water had gone down enough for the boats to get under the railroad & Ohio street bridges at the mouth of the creek where it empties into the Ohio river. It's a little fuzzy because I had to blow it up by 400 percent. By dumb luck, I found this article by searching for pics of houseboats on the Ohio or Wabash river. I was trying to figure out what time period the boats in the painting were from. I stumbled on this article from the local paper because it had a pic. My best guess, someone read the article, & it peaked their interest enough to go down to one of the bridges & made a sketch or painted this. I love that the artist seem like either an untrained painter or self taught. In whatever case, it's folk art that evoke a story of the disposest & downtrodden. Truthfully, I don't know if the story goes with the painting, but I'd like to think it does. I loved the old guy who calls the mayor son & says he voted for him, & that he's lived on the creek for twenty four years. None of the residents were on relief as they called it, or what we'd call welfare. They were just living on the fringe as best they could. It's the old story of the little guy being given the heave ho by city hall from land that had been thought worthless, but now the city wanted it. This is a current Google maps view of the creek. I'm figuring the painting must be a view from the Franklin street bridge looking down stream, but I can't be sure. The Lloyd bridge is too high for the angle of the painting, & I don't think the house boats were any further upstream.
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Post by nana on Feb 5, 2017 8:08:41 GMT -5
Nana, thanks! Collecting plates has kept me out of trouble in the fleatiques over the years. Now I also look for cookware, which can be more than $3. ;-). Good to know about the Dayton tire industry. But don't you think they could put the tire on the outer ring?? But let me not run Ohio down. . . . The Great State of NY is represented by the Empire State Building and a pretty swell Niagra Falls. But no Syracuse, or Rochester, no Buffalo, no Utica or Albany or Saranac. What gives?? Maybe I need to do a run on Route 20 this summer. . . My Pittsburgh plate is too ridiculous to photograph. Pooka: what Nana says. Someone watched those houseboats float in a storm. How did you know?? My best guess about the tire: The plate was already designed when the president of Dayton Tires called the director of Ohio tourism and said, "That plate better have a goddam tire on it or I'll see to it that you can't get appointed dogcatcher in this state." So he got his tire. It certainly has the look of something tacked on at the last minute under duress, doesn't it?
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Post by nana on Feb 5, 2017 8:31:23 GMT -5
From the sound of it, I guess they started living on houseboats during the Depression out of necessity, and then just never were able or maybe even never felt the need to change. Once you get the kinks worked out it's not a bad life for the right kind of person. People still live on houseboats--some luxury getaways, no doubt, but when we were vacationing on Key Largo we were staying right on the sound, and we saw quite a few old sailboats moored out there that looked like they hadn't moved in years. No sails, all loaded up with seaweed and barnacles. We wondered about why people would have a boat and never use it. Then one day while paddling kayaks around, we realized they were inhabited. We saw one boat had a little dog living on it. We saw laundry hanging from a line. There was a lively little industry of grocery delivery and marine septic pumping boats servicing them. If you can deal with the cramped living space, it must be the cheapest way to live in Florida, and all the sunsets you can watch and fish you can eat!
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Post by evangeline on Feb 5, 2017 15:06:59 GMT -5
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Post by nana on Feb 5, 2017 20:25:08 GMT -5
Evangeline, you are just going to have to bite the bullet and show us that Pittsburgh plate....
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Post by pooka on Feb 6, 2017 3:50:58 GMT -5
nana, Just west of that area, there was a shipyard where they built LSTs during the the war. It operated twenty four hour a day. Just east was a train yard behind the Evansville & Terre Haute Railroad Station that faced toward down town, so this was a shanty town of sorts of shacks & house boats between two industrial areas.
During the war, our population just about doubled. There wasn't enough housing in town. They had a system where multiple people shared a bed, so when one person was going to work, someone else was sleeping in the same bed while the first person was working. A shanty town along the creek probably helped fill the void. After the war ended, some had nowhere else to go. As I said, it was a story of people living on the edge.
evangeline, I'm going to have to pay a little more attention to these plates when I see them. I know some are collector plates from much later. Sometimes they are from local churches. Living alone & never entertaining guests, I don't have a use for many dishes. I've got a motley collection of mismatched pieces that I make due with. One of my weaknesses is hand made pottery, but only if I think it's nicely made & sparks my fancy.
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Post by evangeline on Feb 6, 2017 8:06:37 GMT -5
Hi, Pooka. Oh yes, those collectors plates are super pricey. Anything commissioned. I pass 'em by. Most of the city plates I've found are a little scruffy by technique. The Johnson Brothers state and national attraction plates are on another level. I guess they're out of fashion so the prices are the same, more or less. These were my primary serving plates for years until PF said, 'China is white.' ahem. So we trucked off to Crate and Barrel and now he can 'see his food.' Personally I enjoyed watching a tire emerge from the asparagus. ;-) Ok, Nana, here it is, Pittsburgh. It's a dessert plate but they still managed to fit almost everything in: Home of the Pirates, the Airport, the Museum of Art, the Civic Arena (hockey, domed, now demolished), Mellon Square (!! The first garden installed on the roof of a parking lot - in the nation!); the Cathedral of Learning (Pitt), and the Buhl Planetarium. The Golden Triangle in the center. All of that and gold lace. A rather tony choice of attractions. What's missing?? The Steelers. (and the mills. . . ) There's gotta be a story here. ne last word on Ohio and the Levitating Firestone Tire: at the top of the medallion is a depiction of a toll booth. Possibly the plate was commissioned to commemorate the completion of the interstate? Otherwise it's an odd statement: come to Ohio, the road through it is straight and fast. . It won't be expensive. And if you pick up a nail we've got you covered. :-D
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Post by nana on Feb 6, 2017 15:33:30 GMT -5
That plate is the best! It oozes civic pride. As a tourist, an airport and a parking garage would not be high on my list of must-see sites. I'm sure their's are very nice, though!
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Post by pooka on Feb 7, 2017 4:51:38 GMT -5
I did a search for Indiana souvenir plates. Some of them are rather underwhelming odd. They feature a motley collection of high points. The Indy 500 & the state house are high in frequent use, but the Indiana Turnpike tollbooth shows up too. One show the zinnia as the state flower, but another show the peonies as I grew up learning. Civic pride of the past took some odd twists & turns. The things these plates feature seem more like what politicians & business men, & maybe sports fans would suggest. They are an unusual pursuit, but if it gives you a chuckle, more power to you. The older ones seem to be more interesting. The later ones tend to be just strange.
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Post by evangeline on Feb 7, 2017 9:17:19 GMT -5
Hey Pooka. More like it's nostalgia. Carlsbad Caverns: a cackling toddler running loose in the dark. My mother screaming my name and the cave taking a giant breath and shouting it back. She followed my laughter; instead of the strap, an ice cream. New Orleans: A Halloween weekend with my girlfriends. Lodging in a 'haunted castle.' Waking up at night to answer a knock on the door. No one there! Staying up with the lights on drinking brandy. ;-D. A misguided road trip on I90 one summer, stumbling into Sturgis at the foot of Mt Rushmore at twilight, finding myself sharing floor space at Motel 6 with some biker lads and ladies because the Inn was Full (google Sturgis and 'Harley'). These are the rules: no ebay fishing, the memory has to bob up at random. Wild Caught!
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Post by pooka on Feb 7, 2017 12:05:46 GMT -5
I love things discovered in the wild as you say. Experience life as it's thrown at you, rather that meticulously seeking them out. The unexpected odd events in life are what make it an adventure. The uncommon treasures you uncover in a box under a table in a junk shop can be the most treasured.
Go on a walk about as they say down under. Maybe have an end point in mind, then ponder what you find along the way. A life too well planed just doesn't have the same impact as an unplanned adventure.
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Post by pooka on May 10, 2017 10:58:15 GMT -5
evangeline, yesterday your bad influence hit home for me. After getting up early & cutting some unwanted volunteer trees down, I took a break to cool off & watch a little TV. Well my sister called me to say she forgot to remind me she needed a ride to an appointment on the east side. Usually I kill the hour it takes by hitting some of the thrift stores in the area. I dropped her off, then stopped by work to see what the construction workers were doing on our dinning room. Then I went down the road to the Goodwill to waste the rest of the hour.
Well what do I find, but a Johnson Brothers State Of Oregon plate like the one you pictured above. You're right. They are beautiful. It looks like brand new. It isn't nearly as hokey as some of the other in your collection. Plus, by your rule I did drive through Oregon some years ago. It was only $2. I also picked up a Polo canvas tote bag. I keep an eye out for canvas tote bags for groceries or what ever so I don't have to get the plastic ones. I only buy them if they're well made. It's a plus if they have something interesting printed on them. I won't buy anything advertising banks, hospitals or drug companies or anything like that. Some of the ones I've got are really meant to be book bags from library's or book stores. I'll have to take some pics. Some are a hoot.
Well on the way home from dropping my sister off, I stopped by the St. Vincent De Paul thrift store & found a Wear-Ever Halite 3 1/2 quart saucepan for $2. The other day I found a Halite eight inch skillet for $2. A few days later, I found the lid that fits it for $1. It also fits the 3 1/2 quart saucepan, all at St. Vincent De Paul thrift store. So I've started collecting Halite. Not so much that I like it, but it has a ringed handle, so they can be hung from a hook, so They don't take up space in the cupboard. A plus is that the skillet makes the best scrambled eggs I've ever been able to make. I use to use my square Wagner Ware skillet, but the Halite works a lot better. I'll post pics of them later.
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Post by evangeline on May 10, 2017 17:28:41 GMT -5
Pooka, Ha. Good buy on the Johnson Bros plate. All the Johnson Bros products are wonderful! And whoa, I'm so jealous about the Halite. There is NO halite here. None. Scarce as hen's teeth. Why is that? I found a Halite bean pot a few years ago. That was it. (I use it all the time. It is very nice!). Every one in a while I see a roaster in the $40 range but I don't bite because I already have the lists & a circulon and unclear on the advantage to a heavy duty aluminum roaster. Anyone want to set me straight on that?? But they are gorgeous (the roasters I mean.)
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Post by pooka on May 11, 2017 1:48:30 GMT -5
Here's my new plate to start. It's flawless, as if it's new just out of the box. Next, the Halite, here's what I've got up to now. This is the eight inch skillet that I found first. The next week, I found the lid. I believe they made one smaller, & one larger than this. As I said, it makes the best scrambled eggs. Nice & fluffy, like a master chef made them. I'd never been able to do that with any other pan I've used. Here's the newest 3 1/2 quart saucepan. The same lid as the skillet fits it. I didn't need it, but I thought what the heck. The big pot in the back was in the house when I moved in. I guess grandma picked it up years ago, but there's no lid. I've never used it. I've got my mom's Wear-Ever dutch oven if I need something that size. I've looked for a lid for it off & on, but no luck yet. Just to mention it while it's in the picture, the pan behind it is a Bakers & Chefs NSF 2.75 quart aluminum saucepan. It's a commercial grade pan with a forged steel or iron handle with a slide on silicone grip. I got it for a couple of buck, & its a joy to use. It didn't have a lid. I looked around for one, but no luck till recently. The one you see was 50 cents, & is another brand. It's not a perfect fit, because it's meant for a slightly smaller pan, but if I center it, it just covers the whole pan. It's also stainless steel with a cast stainless steel handle. I tried to figure out the brand from the logo on the handle, but no luck, not that it matters. It works. That's all I care about. I'd been using a throw away aluminum pie pan before I got this lid. Here's the logo. As I collect these better pans, I want just chuck my old stuff, cause I'll never use them again. It's hard to tell why there's no Halite in your area. Maybe it wasn't popular around there. Or people don't get rid of it, because it works so well, but that's unlikely. So many people want pretty new stuff rather that even the best vintage pans. Crazy people will throw away the best stuff just because it's old. I guess it's like the keeping up with the Jones kind of thing, plus changing fashions, & new trend even with cookware. I find the old stuff works best, & I don't care what it looks like as long as it's clean. The heavy aluminum roasters have their place. they cook differently than most roasters. As long as the lid fit's tight, They tend to steam as well as roast. The lids are so heavy, the steam can't lift them to get out unlike a light weight lids. They work well for tougher cuts of meat. The best pot roast I've ever made was in my mom's old Wear-Ever dutch oven. It's pretty heavy gauge stuff. I've got this Wagner-Ware Magnalite roaster that I picked up cheap. I shouldn't have, because it's really too big for just me. The only real reason I bought it was because it was only $10. New, they sell for just over $100. It is missing it's rack, but one could be picked up pretty reasonably, or you could get a cheaper discount one that would work as well. Here's a link bellow to it on the manufacturers website that gives a good explanation of how the works. If you'd like it, I could let it go cheap, plus postage. They've been making these since the late 1930s. It's one of the few products that's still made to the same quality standards as they were back then. I guess there's a good reason for that, but as I said, they're quite expensive new. This is the smallest one they make. They have three bigger ones. They do make a smaller round one with a plastic handle that they call a "Casserole with Lid". It's about the same size as mom's dutch oven. The hot water kettle shown next to the skillet above came out at the same time as these roasters, but they haven't made them in decades. "WagnerWare" MagWare Oval Roaster with Lid I'll finish this post off with some fun stuff, my canvas tote bags. here's my collection I keep in my trunk for groceries or what ever need be. This is my newest one. This was a local orchard in the next town east of here, although they're no longer there. There is a housing subdivision there now. There was another by the same name a bit north of me, but it suffered the same fate. The same last name, but not the same family. Maybe it goes back to the old country in Germany. They used to have boat races down on the river, but that ended years ago. This is a local nature preserve. It's the largest stand of virgin timber inside a city limits in the country. I've got two of these. I love the colors. I don't know what the fish have to do with it. There's a pound that they dug in an area they've done some rehab to, but no waterways to speak of. This is from the same town east where the orchard was, as well as another small town out in the same direction. This is one side. This is the other side. This one is like this on both side, & is meant to be a book bag like the one above. It says "IMAGIN NATION BOOKS LTD" on the handle. Here's another book bag. I don't know what this one is for, but it's neat to look at. This one is just fun. I gotta have at lest one from a far away place. A bit of theater. This is for the Meryl Street movie Florence Foster Jenkins (2016)
I saved the best for last for the cat lovers here. This is the one I use every day to carry stuff to the car. That's why it's so dirty. It needs to be washed. I hope I haven't bored you.
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Post by evangeline on May 11, 2017 7:18:41 GMT -5
Wow, nice pots. The hallites are so stylish. I love the curves. I keep the bean pot on the Chambers because they look great together. And nice bags! Most of mine advertise for the grocery. :-(. That Kliban bag - the cat. My college boyfriend had that on a shirt! Together we wore it to rags. Laughing! You made my morning, Pooka! Hey, that Wagnerware roaster is tempting. Unsure if I would use it, there being only two of us (and I am trying to go vegetarian!!!).
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Post by pooka on May 11, 2017 11:32:53 GMT -5
I thought I'd offer. As I said, I really picked it up cause it was so cheap. A $100 pot for $10. How can I go wrong. I should stick it on eBay, along with a lot of my stuff that I've no need of. I could use the money. I'm the ultimate bargain hunter. I rarely pay much for anything if I can help it. I got a $47 Cutco meat fork yesterday for 27 cents. I've got a set of the knives that match it I bought from my cousin when he was selling them for a while. I look for durable, useful, beautiful & interesting things with a slant to the vintage. I'm a pack rat that hates to see usable thing go to waste.
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Post by pooka on May 19, 2017 12:11:06 GMT -5
Well this new interest has struck again. The new one is no great prize to anyone but a local, or someone with ties to the area. It's to commemorates 150 Years of Progress Morganfield - Kentucky - Union County. According to Quick facts of a Google map search, the vital statistics are, It's a county located in the U.S. state of Kentucky. As of the 2010 census, the population was 15,007. Its county seat is Morganfield. The county was formed on January 15, 1811.Wikipedia Population: 15,165 (2014) Largest city: Morganfield Unemployment rate: 5.6% (Dec 2016) Google maps facts on it's capital Morganfield are quite modest by any ones standards. Morganfield is a home rule-class city in Union County, Kentucky, in the United States. It is the seat of its county. The population was 3,285 as of the year 2010 U.S. census.Wikipedia Zip code: 42437 Incorporated: March 16, 1870 Population: 3,598 (2014) This plate is of value to me, because my dads family is from Waverly, KY. A tiny wide spot in the road in Union County. Quick facts says, Waverly is a home rule-class city in Union County, Kentucky, United States. The population was 297 at the 2000 census. Founded in 1870, the city was named for founder Hugh McElroy's nephew.Wikipedia Zip code: 42462 Population: 313 (2014) Area: 173 acres Of further interest is that my oldest twin brother & sister were born at Camp Breckenridge Army camp that abuts the town of Morganfield. When they were born, dad was away serving in the US Navy, & camp Camp Breckenridge was the nearest military base to my home town. It was converted to the Breckenridge Job Corps Center, later renamed the Earle C. Clements Job Corps Center the last I heard. Well that's a lot to get out of a piece of crockery of little or no interest to most anyone else. With all that build up, here's the plate. It's made by Kettlesprings Kilns of Alliance, Ohio, which is still in business. I found it's design, KG38S was made in 1961 per the date on the plate. They have a list of all the designs they made at, Kettlesprings Design ListThis is the description on the back. Here's the front. The design in the center. At the top is the Union County Courthouse - Erected 1872. Going clockwise, next is the American Legion Hut - Built 1936. Next the Morganfield Library - Built 1940. At the bottom is the ST. Vincent Academy - Established 1820. Next is the Morganfield Elementary School - Built 1959. Last is East Main Street - 1910. I've not driven through there for a long time, but I don't believe it's changed much since 1910. Highway 60 used to go right through town, but I believe there's a bypass now. It's not as classy as some plates, but it's not nearly as hokey as many seem to us today. It's a little town in rural western Kentucky which may not be a great metropolis, but they do have civic pride in what they have. All this is a lot to get out of one old plate.
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Post by nana on May 20, 2017 6:57:35 GMT -5
How did I miss the continuation of this thread? I am really enjoying seeing everyone's collections, it's like a little trip to a mini museum.
I was given a poster of that Kliban cat singing his little song as a child! It is still hanging on the wall of the bunkroom in the cabin in Vermont that my family owns. Indeed, I still regularly sing it to my cats! 😺
I love the picture in the middle of your Kentucky plate, Pooka. It looks like they are about to march 20 paces, turn around and duel--musket vs what is that? A ball point pen? My money's on the Daniel Boone fella!
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Post by pooka on May 20, 2017 9:55:35 GMT -5
That Kliban cat tote bag gave me a chuckle when I found it. I use it daily to carry stuff to the car. All the other tote bags I bought because they either grabbed me with their appealing designs, or where of local interest, like the library, nature preserve or orchard that's no longer there. The Polo one is the closest to something commercial that I normally steer clear of, but it was a bigger well made one. On the side, it said 100% of the net proceeds from the sale of this bag will be donated to the Ralph Lauren Foundation Support of Philanthropic Initiatives. It says it's made of 100% organic cotton too. They are something useful but each have a certain flair of stye or humor. Plus they only cost me a buck or two each. I kinda went overboard giving background on that last plate. That pic in the center I see a little more poetically. The pioneer is looking back at the era he lived through up to his time. The modern businessman is looking into the future that is yet to come. Your analogy is a bit more humorous. The pen may be mightier than the sword, but not mightier than the Kentucky long rifle. Did I say this plate cost me $1. As I said, my dads family goes way back in that county. I'm not sure how far, but easily more than a hundred year, maybe two hundred. They are Catholics in an area that's dominated by Baptists. The brick Catholic church is the biggest, nicest building in Waverly. The ST. Vincent Academy - Established 1820 at the bottom of the plate was started & run by Catholic nuns, The Sisters of Charity until it closed in 1967. It was a girls school for most of it's history. I tell people if you check the death notices for Union County for people with my last name, if they're Catholic, they're white. If they're Baptist, they're black. I'm sure that goes back to the days of slavery in the area. There may have been some inappropriate liaisons at it's heart. I really don't know. People usually don't talk of such things. A certain robed group was big even this far north, & held sway in my state until a murderous scandal of a white woman in the 1920s when it lost a lot of it's appeal. When I worked at a gas station years ago. when they were sticklers for carding kids for cigarette sales, I carded a guy one night. He had the same first & last name as me, but he was a head shorter than I, & twice my girth, & he was black. Some years later, I got a delinquent bill from a hospital down in that area. I called about it, as it wasn't mine. They compares my social security number to their records & said, I was right. It wasn't my bill. Kettlesprings Kilns, the maker of that plate was started in 1950, & is a whole sector of collector plates. They've done them for any manner of city, state, church or civic group over the years. We could commission a Chambers collector plate if we wanted. They make two sized plates, plus mugs, bells & tiles. The minimum order is twelve dozen though. That's a cool idea. I've got more than enough pics & info to be able to come up with an interesting design. Imagine John Chambers at the center as the father of our stoves. A pic of the factory at the bottom. Around the edge would be images of prominent models over the years. It would have to have the very first wooden bodied stove at the top. Kettlesprings ProductsKettlesprings ordering
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Post by nana on May 21, 2017 7:42:13 GMT -5
A gross of Chambers plates would be a bit too many, maybe. But if it were ever to be done, you would definitely be the one to design it, Pooka!
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Post by pooka on May 21, 2017 10:56:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I might be able to sell a few to members here & on the other site. The rest of the 144 would take longer than I probably have to live to sell off on eBay & where ever else I could market them. I think $1139.76 is a bit more than I'd want to invest on the minimum order of a gross of the 9.25" plates, or $1031.76 for the 8.5" plates, $536.32 for the mugs & $738.12 for the tiles. I wouldn't even ponder the bells. They're just TOO kitschy.
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Post by nana on May 23, 2017 14:29:55 GMT -5
A Chambers bell to ring when dinner is ready....No! Stay strong, Nana!
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