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Post by chrisingle on Mar 22, 2023 19:57:04 GMT -5
Greetings.
New here. Just got my Chambers C90 ( I think, not sure yet. Everything is there, except for the thermowell pots. It's a greasy,filthy, nasty pig. Allegedly, it came from an abandoned local farmhouse. However, Everything turns,has no obvious broken parts (other than the light lens and 1 lumiline socket.) And it came with 2 spare lumiline lamps. All together and out the door for $125. I've got some Molycote gas cock grease ordered all the way for England for it.
Seemed too good a deal to pass up. Probably never have to buy another stove again.
I don't know if I can add photos or not.
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Post by mach12 on Mar 23, 2023 0:29:40 GMT -5
Welcome! Sounds like a great deal. If you lift out the right front grate and drip pan you should see a data plate on the cross bar that the burner sits on. It'll give your model number. The number of photos that this site allows on free accounts was used up quickly some years ago but there's an easy work around. You set up a free account on an image hosting site, upload your photos there, and then link to the pictures here. Sounds like a hassle but it really does work easier than it sounds. Those lumiline bulbs are near impossible to get anymore so you'll want to take good care of them. They may well be worth what you paid for the stove. You're on track with servicing the gas valves. The old lube dries out over the years and gas leaks past the shafts. Believe it or not, being greasy is normally a good thing since it tends to protect the stove. Some clean up easier than others but BBQ Grill cleaner normally works well. Is you plan just to clean it up, service it, and put it to work or do you plan to do a full restoration?
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Post by donmattera on Mar 23, 2023 4:33:13 GMT -5
Congrats on the new stove sounds like a great deal. I have the clips you need for the bulb. Email me Matterastoveworks@Gmail.com Don
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Post by chrisingle on Mar 24, 2023 19:46:48 GMT -5
Hoping to make the stove very nice, and use it forever.
I've gotten it substantially apart today. Half-filled a small vacuum with crusty nastiness. Hauled the main cook top to the carwash. It unfortunately looks as though a rechrome is in order to get it nice. No clue how high that is going to be. Tried that yellow dollar store LA cleaner on the greasiness, and it seems to work very well. Not sure on the tag yet, still too gross to read.
I Unfortunately broke the main pilot line going to the 4 way igniter. I have copper to replace if that will work. Saw that it does have the Universal adjustment orifices, too!
The light seems to be broken in the socket side, and not the clip side. I have several of the clips, but my only sockets are in other lumiline things around the house. I'd hate to destroy one of them to get the socket though. Was there a special high heat version for stoves?
Looking forward to putting this heavy old beast back to work as intended.
THANKS, Chris I.
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Post by donmattera on Mar 25, 2023 7:38:47 GMT -5
I have the sockets for the light Don
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Post by mach12 on Mar 25, 2023 11:09:49 GMT -5
Metallic piping is regulated under the National Fuel Gas Code, NFPA 54, and copper is restricted from use where hydrogen sulfide is present above certain levels, generally the case with natural gas. Normally it's okay with propane and is still often seen in RV construction, but then enters the stove portability and manufacturers design issues. Inspectors (and insurers) fall back on the manufacturer and modifications must be approved by the manufacturer. A common example is installing a standing pilot for the oven. The oven pilot instructions you see written up are based on the systems Chambers designed and installed so are considered manufacturer designed. Using copper was never approved by Chambers to my knowledge so I don't use it or recommend it. The gas code says that where copper is used that it needs to be type K or Type L. Don Mattera is a great resource for parts like that, so you might check with him. When I was still doing repairs, I bought a number of parts from him (or had my customer buy the parts and I'd install them) and was always pleased. I don't have any connection with his business or receive any discounts or anything, so that's just a personal recommendation based on experience as a customer. I'm not doing field work anymore so am just doing stoves in my shop that I own and am kind of winding down (fewer stoves, more fishing). I'm not sure who's doing stove top chrome these days. I used a local shop until a guy bought it out and his entire crew walked after working for him for a while. As you'd expect his work quality suffered and never recovered. Then I started using Salt Lake Chrome and they were consistently great but now I'm told they've shut down. Not sure who to recommend anymore. Not much help there. By Universal, do the have the drilled pins? Sometimes the solid pin mixers are confused as universals and I've seen posts that could lead you astray. This picture shows a universal and a standard mixer, the universal is the upper one and the standard is the lower one. I pulled the pin to clean it up and set it up for LP and thought a disassembled photo might be of interest.
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Post by chrisingle on Mar 25, 2023 18:17:27 GMT -5
Got more cleaning done. I discovered it is, in fact, a 90C. The tips, on closer inspection, are fixed. I would assume LP or Butane simply based on the original rural installation location (Farmhouse 10 miles from town). However, I never saw the original place. Also, there is a fist sized regulator in the Dry Storage side. Does it need to change for NG, or just orifice size?
If the pilot line cannot be copper, what is it supposed to be? Aluminum, stainless, etc?
We have 4 different plater companies in Oklahoma City that can rechrome. I will call Monday. Does Chambers have a specific type, of plate chrome? What is the base metal so I don't look like a total idiot?
Thank you for the help, I'm new to stoves. Far more familiar with refrigerators and washers.
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Post by mach12 on Mar 26, 2023 15:42:38 GMT -5
The lines are normally aluminum. Be careful with the pilot tubing so you don't lose the blocks on the ends that go into the burners,
The tops are triple-dipped, first dip copper, second dip nickel, and third dip chrome. The tops on C's are stamped steel but I don't know the grade of steel. Mostly they just need to know whether it's cast or stamped. Chambers stoves used to have cast tops but the C's predecessor, the BZ, was the last Chambers with a cast top.
You're sure welcome. I enjoy helping and it keeps my old brain active. I'll try to keep following but might be hit and miss for a few days since I have some medical stuff this week.
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Post by mach12 on Mar 26, 2023 15:48:26 GMT -5
Just sent you a message when you get a chance. No hurry.
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