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Post by voodoochikin04 on Aug 27, 2020 10:01:08 GMT -5
So this arrived in the mail today!! I believe it to be a #3 according to the seller.
The one question I have about it: Seems to be the lid is slightly small, whereas if its slid to one side, there is 1/2" gap to the edge on the corresponding side as shown in the 2nd picture.
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Post by dwayner2 on Aug 27, 2020 12:25:06 GMT -5
Mach12 has one of every size I think so he’s “The Man” who knows that stuff. But, I just checked mine and the lid fills the gap to the outer rim. I think your lid goes to a smaller LISK? 🤨. But hey, it should still work fine. Here’s mine...
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Post by mach12 on Aug 27, 2020 14:15:41 GMT -5
I have a couple that are that way. I took the following picture to show the difference in sizes with some of mine and the one on the bottom has a similar gap (you can see it pretty well in the photo). Still works just fine though.
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Post by mach12 on Aug 27, 2020 23:59:43 GMT -5
That bottom one isn't one of the regular sizes that Chambers dealers carried but it's a nice size for the turkeys we generally get for our size family, I used to use the #3 for that a lot but the way the top dips down to baste it sometimes touched the bird, probably because I like to set the bird on a rack.
I found that one in a place near me called Yard Birds that was the original mega-shopping center but as nationwide outfits like K-Mart came in selling import goods at prices they couldn't compete with they eventually shut down and converted to a place that rents spaces for people to sell stuff. Most of it's like a collection of thrift and antique stores with some people selling crafts and so on. In one corner of the main floor is a guy who sells everything in online auctions and he has a crew who handles all of the sorting, photographing, posting the items for auction and so on and every so often they have a bulk sale where you can buy a box, pallet or shopping cart full of stuff that didn't go to the auction and a lot of that ends up for sale in the other shops there.
During one of Dwayner's visits we were there looking to see whether there was anything we couldn't live without and I saw the top of that roaster sitting upside-down on a shelf, full of kitchen stuff. I picked it up and looked underneath of it to see whether it was a Lisk and sure enough it was. And it had an inventory tag from the online auction place. I asked they guy at the shop whether he had the rest of the roaster and he said no, just that top. I figured that was that and Dwayner and I went to look in other shops. At one point we walked past a fenced area where the auction place had some stuff stored and there on the floor with some stuff it looked like they had been sorting was the bottom half = and the tray was sitting in it. I went and found one of the employees and they said they didn't sell individual items except online. I asked who could change that and they said only the owner but that he wasn't there. And then he walks in, I cornered him, pulled out I think a $10 bill and told him I'd be the last person he'd see that would be dumb enough to buy half of a roaster, and he told on of the employees to get the key. Then I went back for the lid, pulled out I think a $5 bill, told that guy the same thing, and carried a complete roaster out to the car. Dwayner just sat there shaking his head. But then, he'd just found this really cool Corona roaster. I asked him if he wanted to trade but no dice.
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Post by voodoochikin04 on Aug 28, 2020 8:23:46 GMT -5
That sounds like a good time. I think we are going to hit some sales today. See if I can find another roaster.
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Post by dwayner2 on Aug 28, 2020 8:46:54 GMT -5
If I head up to see Chuckie in a month I usually hit 3-4 good antique stores in the KC area so I’ll contact you if I find one before you do.
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Post by pooka on Aug 28, 2020 10:26:38 GMT -5
Here's a chart I made years ago for Lisk & Savory roasters. They are two of the biggest selling ones out there for a lot of years. Savory came out I think in 1898. Lisk was 1911. There were also some sold as Reed roasters that are identical to the Lisk, but were usually light blue. Chambers sold three of the sizes of Lisk at their dealers. I think it was the 0, 1 & 3. The biggest Lisk will only fit in the oven if you take out all the racks, so that the pan sits right on the bottom of the oven. It also has to sit crosswise, or corner to corner.
The Lisk size 0, & the Savory Junior are a great sizes for just one or two people. This is a mistake many people make. Using too big a pan for what they're cooking. For best results, you need to use the correct tool for the job at hand.
This chart is a great reference when hunting for them.
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Post by voodoochikin04 on Aug 28, 2020 12:01:18 GMT -5
I picked up these roasters at good will. Driptop on the left and Reed vented on the right. $4 & $8.
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Post by dwayner2 on Aug 28, 2020 13:16:21 GMT -5
Mach12, if Jeff wasn’t going to charge me $150 to do both halves of that Corona roaster I’d have it reporcelained. Wow, a yellow roaster with blue trim, blue handles and blue lettering would be the colors of the beer. Someone out there probably WOULD pay $150 for it...Mmmmmm?
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Post by mach12 on Aug 28, 2020 13:23:22 GMT -5
I'm such a sucker for those kinds of things that I'd do it in a heartbeat. Some things just give enough enjoyment every time you look at it or use it that it's worth the money, at least for me. That's probably why my retirement fallback is a cardboard sign though...
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Post by mach12 on Aug 28, 2020 13:33:09 GMT -5
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Post by pooka on Aug 28, 2020 13:36:49 GMT -5
The same company made a couple of lesser roasters other than the Lisk. The Drip Top was the second best. Then there was an unbranded flat top one with a handle. The reason the Lisk & Reed are superior is the inner pan that you can lift out. The lower half has bumps that raise the inner pan up, effectively working as a heat diffuser, so you can't scorch the bottom of what your cooking. You could also use a rack in the lesser ones. Oddly enough, the same company eventually made the Savory roasters too.
Here's a link to a web page that give a good quick brief on these.
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Post by pooka on Aug 28, 2020 13:50:30 GMT -5
mach12, you where quicker at the keyboard than me. I've got the book mentioned by Lynda Hotra entitled “Better Quality – an Illustrated History of the Lisk Manufacturing Company” somewhere around here. It's mostly old ads. but interesting to thumb through. They used to make all manner of wares for every need, even bath tubs.
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Post by voodoochikin04 on Aug 28, 2020 15:15:49 GMT -5
Neither the Reed nor the driptop had inner trays. Were those not sold with trays?
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Post by mach12 on Aug 28, 2020 18:13:41 GMT -5
mach12, you where quicker at the keyboard than me. I've got the book mentioned by Lynda Hotra entitled “Better Quality – an Illustrated History of the Lisk Manufacturing Company” somewhere around here. It's mostly old ads. but interesting to thumb through. They used to make all manner of wares for every need, even bath tubs. I saw that. You were way ahead of me, by years, since the original post on it was yours. Like much of the time I'm just passing on stuff you shared. We Chambers owners sure owe you a debt of gratitude. My first thought was to type "Great minds think alike" but I'm pretty sure comparing my brain to yours is insulting you lol. Even before the doc went in and dug around in mine. I think anymore I fit an Arabic description I learned working over that way, I'm not sure of the spelling but when someone is always doing stupid stuff in Muslim speaking countries you'll hear someone say "Mfysh Makh, fi Halamia". Translates to "There is no brain, Only Jelly". I learned that one from a taxi driver in Cairo but it's understood all over, probably because Cairo is the Hollywood equivalent of the region and the Egyptian dialect has spread that way. I had an Egyptian translator in Iraq and in a meeting in Mosul after this particularly boneheaded Colonel finished talking I looked at my translator and said that phrase - quietly, I thought - and all of the locals busted out laughing. I looked for that book for a bit when you first posted about it but struck out so will have to look again. If it's full of ads, all the better as far as I'm concerned. When I found the Fannie Farmer and Boston School of Cooking cookbooks I looked through the recipes and the sections on fireless cooking and it was good info but when I got to the last part of the book with all of the ads from sponsors I really got excited. You can really glean a lot of info from them sometimes but if nothing else, they can be entertaining. Since I alternate between working on projects and resting I have more computer time than in the past so will have to see whether I can find a copy now.
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Post by pooka on Aug 29, 2020 2:56:27 GMT -5
My original posts about these roasters was a few years ago when I really had the bit in my teeth, hungering to fill that Chambers information void. I was actively hunting for the right pots & pans. Now I've got more than my fill (of pots & pans that is). I've stopped seeing them like lost puppies I must save. The last Lisk roaster was so cheap I couldn't pass it up. But once I got it home, I thought, what the heck am I doing? I should start selling off what I'll never use. I'm good at collecting, not so much at dispersing. I don't have the temperament for the marketing, deal making & shipping if need be. That book mentioned I got from the local Historical Society in New York where the factory was. I came upon in in my searching. It was on clearance sale for like $5 or some really cheap price. I've looked through it a few times. It's a cheaply bound paperback that is now falling apart. I don't know if it's worth trying to get it rebound. If I run across it, I'll send it to you. I'll grudgingly take the compliment. I guess I have a certain skill that's ill definable. I have the habit of collecting info if it interests me. It can cover a wide scope, but I'm not well studied at anything. My mom used to say, a jack of all trades, master of none. My Chambers stove kind of put me into a frenzy for while. I'd never encountered anything like it. It put me on a single minded tack for a while, because there was zero information on my stove model.
Sadly at least some of my files have been lost on a dead hard drive. I thought I had a copy from not too long ago on a thumb drive, but I can't seem to find it. There's another hard drive in my older PC that I should be able to retrieve an older copy of my files before I moved to the other now dead one. Windows got corrupted on the other one, but I should be able to hook up the hard drive as an external drive to access the files that way.
I got another used PC, but Windows doesn't want to start without an update, & it's not recognizing my network. I don't know what the issue is. Maybe just a bad cable, or bad onboard network adapter. I did pick up a couple of new cables. I haven't sat down to fiddle with it. I think at worst, I may have to put in network adapter card if the onboard one is bad. I did find a 23" monitor for $5 for the new setup, so that's a bit of an upgrade on the cheap. My eyes not being what they used to be, I want the biggest screen I can get on a budget. I do hunger to peruse a nice big flea market or antique mall. There aren't any good ones around like there were in the past. The one big one near me closed down a few years ago. Another smaller one down the road had gotten stale. A bigger one across the river was not as interesting as I'd hoped the last time I went. A newer one in an old grocery I checked out not long ago was pathetic. It's only open the first weekend every month, but it was half empty. What was there was of no interest to me. I'm still hitting the thrift store, but most times, it's a quick five minute walk through & on to the next.
I've filled so may of my wants & needs over the years, something has to be pretty spectacular to draw my eye, or at least be quickly useful. I've gravitated to picking up books that look interesting. Some I'm reading. Others I'd like to get in the right mood to read. I've picked up far too may cook books. I look for ones put out locally, or unusual or historic ones. I think I somehow ended up with two copies of Martha Washington's.
"There is no brain, Only Jelly". That's a scream. I'll bet that's a loose translation. It's probably worse in Arabic than it sounds in English.
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Post by pooka on Aug 29, 2020 3:09:45 GMT -5
I was trying to search out that book again. I could find some used copies for far too much. But then I search for just part of the title, & found it for $1 at Ontario Country Historical Society book store where I got mine. It's the ninth item down.
The description says,
Lisk Better Quality History of the Lisk Manufacturing Company by Lynda McCurdy Hotra
CLEARANCE ITEM!! An illustrated history of this Canandaigua company’s 80 years of manufacturing “anti-rust tin ware” household items. Liskware revolutionized the American Kitchen. Soft bound. Only $1
Bookstore – Canandaigua « Ontario Country Historical Society
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Post by mach12 on Aug 29, 2020 9:20:16 GMT -5
Wow - Thanks for posting that Pooka! I ordered it so we'll see what happens. It was kind of weird though. I clicked on the button to buy it and it went to my Paypal account, I confirmed the purchase, and it went back to the library "Thank You For Your Purchase" page. No address or other confirmation and I'm sure it pulled that from PayPal but normally they ask you to confirm it. Who knows, I might have just bought the book and sent it to someone I last sent money to.
We enjoy flea markets and thrift stores too but I haven't gone to any since the Covid-19 thing hit. First they were all shut down and then I had my surgery and the doc said to stay locked down until I recover. I have too much stuff around here anyway, so a bit of forced restraint is a good thing. I'd still grab any Lisk I saw, especially a gray one. There's a gray one in an antique store that they want over $100 for and it has chips and dings. That's obviously too much since it has been there for at least 5 years but they won't take an offer. I guess they like dusting it.
Thanks again for the info on that book. I'm really looking forward to seeing it. That site is a good genealogy resource too. When I started researching my family tree I was shocked by how many links we have in NY and PA. Might be able to trace some more details there.
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