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Post by vaporvac on Jul 13, 2015 20:00:36 GMT -5
There was a recent heads up by melissa F on the "other" site about a stove not too far from me. dayton.craigslist.org/app/5108349022.html Well, she's now sitting in MY garage!!!! What is wrong with me? I spoke to the fellow on Saturday and dashed up today during gale force winds. It died down as I reached his place and had the same luck on the return trip. He and his wife had acquired it from her childhood neighbor here in Cincinnati when she went into a home. They thought they'd install it then or in their retirement home, but 15 years later they decided it was time to admit they weren't ever going to do it. The Mrs. said she really likes her glass electric stove. They just wanted it to go to a good home and that's where it is. It's in pretty good shape, not rusty and complete. By that I mean (drumroll here) complete with a set of demi's, a single with the elongated pudding steamer AND a Thermobaker (but no rack)!!! Oh, and the little broiler drip well thingy, as well. All are in excellent shape with brass latches and CLEAN. The single pot has a different logo that matches that on the stove ie. a vertical script. The ID plate is also unusual with a W on the left side and C W on the right with a number beneath that's different from those on my other four. I think the single W refers to the white top and the C W refers to the white body. I'm not sure it's actually a cheapening here either as there are some improvements evident. The handle for the griddle plate is larger and heftier, and the service bay has a very nice metal panel that shields the gas lines from accidental damage. I might try to incorporate that into my other ones. All in all, I think I got my money's worth! LOL We're hoping this one will find a home in my PICC daughter's house. Her husband recently expressed dislike for their electric stove, so I think there's an opening there! Thank you melissaF for giving me the heads up on this one! Attachments:
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Post by karitx on Jul 13, 2015 20:16:20 GMT -5
Congrats on the latest acquisition, vaporvac!
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Post by mach12 on Jul 13, 2015 22:22:47 GMT -5
That's so awesome - congratulations!
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Post by vaporvac on Jul 13, 2015 22:25:51 GMT -5
Thanks. Another interesting thing was the stamped dial covers with the paint were manufactured by the Fox mfg co in Cincinnati, OH!!! What are the chances?
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Post by mach12 on Jul 13, 2015 22:45:54 GMT -5
You'll have to post some close-ups of the dials when you get a chance. And of the stove when you get the grates installed and so on. Didn't this one have the B series thumb latches like my blue 90C does? That enamel top is pretty unique. Do you find any other differences?
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Post by vaporvac on Jul 14, 2015 1:20:21 GMT -5
Oh yeah, it also had the simmer grate. I haven't gotten into it yet as a huge limb fell on my house while I was getting it. I have to download and Xcopy my pics as my memory card is full. When I do that tomorrow I'll take some pics. Interesting info on the dial. It's the Gustave Fox co. from the mid 1800s. They started with jewelry and changed over to emblems and such making many for the military . AND, I'm pretty sure I know the great-grandson. I may know more tomorrow. It's a very small world. Oh, and it does have the b series thumb latches. I'm especially fascinated by the Chambers script on the single as I don't remember seeing that script before on the Twell pots.
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Post by pooka on Jul 14, 2015 5:41:21 GMT -5
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Post by cinnabar on Jul 14, 2015 15:18:48 GMT -5
The Wear ever stamp in the second photo is missing the TACUCO in the center of the mark. This is stamp is post 1957 but before 1970.
The mark in the third picture was used between 1935 and 1952. This is the older mark Wear Ever used during this time period.
In the mid 1950's the TACUCO was dropped from all marks as the company changed structure, for lack of a better term. The trade name of Wear Ever stayed.
Most Hallite has this blank center, as the pattern emereged in the early 1950's thru the 1960's. The Hallite, Kenware, Madison, and Bonus lines of cookware used the same mark(mostly). In 1966 Wear Ever moved production from New Kensington PA to Chillocothe OH. They changed again in the early 1970's. There was a lot of changing going on.
Whether or not these dates match with the Chambers mark is not my area of expertise. But since they were made for Chambers, and the pots fit more than one model they easily could overlap the dates the marks indicate.
cinnabar
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Post by vaporvac on Jul 14, 2015 15:34:15 GMT -5
Thank you cinnabar and pooka. My new single is the second one pictured. It's very worn, but I don't believe it has the TACUCO wording. All the rest are the 3rd style including the steamed pudding pot that fits on the aingle's id! I thought they'd match. This does help date my stove somewhat since my ID is different from any I've ever seen, but I still can't explain the B thumb latches. This is my first C with the recessed grates that fit inside the holes. The oven burner/flash tube is perfect so I may switch it out with mine when I get to adjusting the oven. The broiler pan and griddle are the best I've seen, but I'm keeping my griddle since it's working super. No sense messing with perfection.
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Post by karitx on Jul 14, 2015 19:50:32 GMT -5
Oh yeah, it also had the simmer grate. I haven't gotten into it yet as a huge limb fell on my house while I was getting it. I have to download and Xcopy my pics as my memory card is full. When I do that tomorrow I'll take some pics. Ugh! I hope your house is okay!
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Post by pooka on Jul 14, 2015 20:02:44 GMT -5
cinnabar. that good information on the Wear-Ever. It's good to have a resident expert. I'll have to file that away in my Thermowell Pot file.
vaporvac, I'm sure there were changes to the stoves & the manufacturing process when the factory was moved to Oxford, MS in 1955 for the last years of the model C's production life. I'll be interested in the little tweaks they made towards the end.
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Post by vaporvac on Jul 15, 2015 12:43:45 GMT -5
I misspoke about the broiler handle; it the same size as my other Cs.
I received such a lovely text from the seller's wife last night about the original owner, who was her childhood neighbor and friend in a very nice neighborhood near me. She's the one who bought the stove to have something to remember her by that she really loved. It was like reading a Wallace Stevens' poem. The original owner sounded like an amazing woman; her husband bought her the stove as a gift and she used it everyday to the full extent (although I don't see how the broiler pan and griddle stayed so new.) She clearly gave the Tbaker a workout. One of her favourite remembrances was her as an elderly woman taking out the trash... in her mink coat! Her name was Margaret (Peg) Chambers!!!! What are the chances? The whole message brought tears when thinking of the love, friendship and loss, but also how each of these stoves probably has a similar story given their expense at the time. They weren't throw-away items like they are today, but a well-researched purchase. This is my only stove of which I know the story so I'm glad it's going to an appreciative home.
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Post by mach12 on Jul 15, 2015 14:01:19 GMT -5
Vaporvac - They must really be excited to have the stove in the hands of someone who will make sure it's appreciated and cared for. Deciding to sell it was probably really difficult and having it turn out this way probably means the world to them. They must be really special people.
When I was moving the most recent BZ that I picked up an envelope with a 3 cent stamp and post mark dated Oct 8, 1957 dropped out of it and I opened it up and there was a kids birthday card (says "Happy Birthday to a Fine Little Boy") with a 1957 dime taped to it. The envelope is darkened from being baked for so many years and you can't read an address so I have no idea who or where it was mailed to. I always wonder about the history of my stoves and this one in particular intrigues me having found the card in it. I can only imagine the story of the card getting lost in the stove (I'd bet on my sister hiding it if it were mine lol).
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Post by Chuckie on Jul 15, 2015 14:29:08 GMT -5
I received such a lovely text from the seller's wife last night about the original owner, who was her childhood neighbor and friend in a very nice neighborhood near me. She's the one who bought the stove to have something to remember her by that she really loved. It was like reading a Wallace Stevens' poem. The original owner sounded like an amazing woman; her husband bought her the stove as a gift and she used it everyday to the full extent (although I don't see how the broiler pan and griddle stayed so new.) She clearly gave the Tbaker a workout. One of her favourite remembrances was her as an elderly woman taking out the trash... in her mink coat! Her name was Margaret (Peg) Chambers!!!! What are the chances? The whole message brought tears when thinking of the love, friendship and loss, but also how each of these stoves probably has a similar story given their expense at the time. They weren't throw-away items like they are today, but a well-researched purchase. This is my only stove of which I know the story so I'm glad it's going to an appreciative home. Vaporvac: I had a kewl story about Isabel's original owner too I posted way back. THOUGHT I had updated the post back in '13, but--alas!--I did NOT. I just did so today, and it is posted elsewhere on the forum (here's the link in case it goes away--sorry to hijack your thread-- MEA CULPA!!) I was just gonna PM you the link, but since I updated, the forum moved it back to "front page news" chamberscommune.proboards.com/thread/2177/christmas-card?page=1&scrollTo=21775CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by pooka on Jul 17, 2015 9:08:25 GMT -5
vaporvac, mach12 & Chuckie, those are all great pieces of evidence that these are more than mere stoves we covet. They are legacy's that we're caretakers of. From Margaret (Peg) Chambers taking out the trash... in her mink coat, to the lost birthday card from the past & lastly, Isabel Boldin being bold enough to boot a worthless husband in the 30s to go on to starting the Isabel Boldin's School of Fashion. What a forceful, yet giving woman she must have been. These stoves are just a continuum that we hitch a ride on for a while. We are part of their story, not the other way around. It's a privileged to possess one for just our brief stint that we call life. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.
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