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Post by chipperhiker on Mar 17, 2007 22:59:31 GMT -5
Here are the two sources that board members are most familiar with. There are more, but these are the most economical we've found, and some of the other companies who offer reporcelaining services actually ship their work to these two firms. Independence Porcelain EnamelIndependence, MO 64050 816-252-8180 www.ipe-porcelain.comPrice list as of January 2009: Side Panels (C & B Model Chambers)- $79.50ea Oven Door (C & B Model Chambers)- $57.50ea Storage Compartment Door (C & B Model Chambers)- $47.50ea. Back Splash (high C & B Model Chambers) - $57.50ea. Back Splash (low C Model Only)- $47.50ea. Front Panel (C & B Model Chambers)- $87.50ea. Bi Fold top (B Model Chambers Only)- $49.50ea. Backsplash Trim (B Model Chambers Only) - $27.50ea. Cast Iron Burner Grates Single - $16.50ea. Drip Pans Steel - $16.50ea. Cast Iron Oven Bottom - $42.50ea. Cast Iron Oven Latches – 14.50ea. Burner Shield (for Well Grate) - $14.50ea. Oven interior panels 17” x 5” - $22.50ea Crumb Trays - $22.50ea Oven Rail Panels - $17.50ea. Oven Door liner - $32.30ea Panty Door liner - $22.50ea. Pantry Floor pan - $32.50ea. Cast Iron Chambers Stove Top - $100.00ea. Cast Iron Burner Grates Double - $21.50ea. Cast Iron Burner Heads - $16.50ea. Cast Iron Burner Heads (long) - $21.50ea. Silkscreen Oven Instructions &/or control panel lettering - $65.00ea Info from Jeff Gaylord on colors, from an email I received: "We have several colors to choose from. We have different shades of yellow including buttercup yellow, several shades of greens and blues, two different shades of red (bright & burgandy), cobalt, purple, pink, etc. We also do the interiors of stoves as well. The price sheet that was posted on your Chambers site would include greens, blues, yellows, etc. The only three colors that carry a premium charge are the two reds, stainless, & pink. The premium charge is 20%. Please feel free to post this information on your site. Unfortunately, I do not have a color brochure to display our colors, but I can send color samples to interested individuals. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to contact us. " Gigi of Gigi's Hollydale ApplianceSouth Gate, CA 90280 reporcelain.comPhone: 562-634-4002 When I talked to Gigi (although this was in late '05), she indicated that email might not be the best way to contact her. Use the phone. She's fun to talk to. Prices, as of Oct. '05. These have been verified since, but it's been a while, and you'll want to call and verify these. Side Panels: $60 Doors (oven or storage): $50 Stove Top: $60-75 Burner grates: $20 each Burner Heads: $20 each Drip pans: $20 each Folding Top $ $45 Broiler:$40 Skirting: $35 Black Striping (the black rim around each panel edge): $35 per panel Front panel ??
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Post by terentia on Jun 5, 2007 22:10:12 GMT -5
excellent. thank you
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Post by chipperhiker on Jun 7, 2007 21:20:02 GMT -5
Glad you found what you needed. Welcome to the board, by the way.
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Post by bucky on Nov 8, 2007 18:16:17 GMT -5
Hey Gang, All is finished with the panel's I just found out, but they still need to stencil the lettering. May be tomorrow morn. It only takes me 30 minutes to get there but still cant wait , too excited. I will let you all know how it turns out.
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Post by chipperhiker on Nov 9, 2007 0:19:38 GMT -5
Excellent. You must be incredibly excited.
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Post by lkeriegrl on May 13, 2008 18:20:37 GMT -5
Did we determine that a Michigan-area porcelain enamel shop actually ships theirs to IPE? Someone I found on the USA Powder Coatings site?
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Post by pipercollins on May 14, 2008 16:06:41 GMT -5
Did we determine that a Michigan-area porcelain enamel shop actually ships theirs to IPE? Someone I found on the USA Powder Coatings site? Antique Stoves in Teknosha (who do good work) actually send theirs to Custom Ceramics in Illinois (even higher priced). I don't know what any other MI restorers do, but I also don't know of any place inside MI that will do the porcelain. I've used IPE and been pleased.
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Post by lkeriegrl on Jun 16, 2008 21:56:39 GMT -5
Update: I :heart: Sandy at IPE. I sent my drip pans last Monday priority mail from Cleveland, she got them Wednesday, and before she even called to get my credit card number, she had gone across the street and given them to the tech to get started on, since she knew it's my only stove. She thought they'd send them back the next morning, UPS. Anyway, I got them by the late truck today (Monday), after a lovely afternoon of degreasing and scrubbing to make my B worthy—I was still wearing my (pink) extra long rubber gloves when I took the box from the man in brown! Happy belated mother's day to me. . .
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Post by pipercollins on Jun 17, 2008 14:04:56 GMT -5
Update: I :heart: Sandy at IPE. I sent my drip pans last Monday priority mail from Cleveland, she got them Wednesday, and before she even called to get my credit card number, she had gone across the street and given them to the tech to get started on, since she knew it's my only stove. She thought they'd send them back the next morning, UPS. Anyway, I got them by the late truck today (Monday), after a lovely afternoon of degreasing and scrubbing to make my B worthy—I was still wearing my (pink) extra long rubber gloves when I took the box from the man in brown! Happy belated mother's day to me. . . Sweet. I've yet to hear a bad story about IPE. The closest I can come is the one grate I sent in that came back with part of the new enamel flaking off. They immediately made good on it for no extra charge. No other trouble.
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Post by bennetty on Aug 8, 2008 17:22:19 GMT -5
Would anyone know of a provider who reporcelains in NJ? Preferably central NJ?
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Post by wannaredun on Oct 9, 2008 18:07:01 GMT -5
Has anyone used any of these for a red stove? Does IPE have a good match for Freedom Red, or would a re-enameled part stick out?
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Post by chipperhiker on Oct 9, 2008 21:52:11 GMT -5
When I spoke to a man who does porcelain color-matching work in Chicago, he said that even if the color itself is a perfect match, new porcelain will never be able to match old porcelain. It will always be brighter and less gray, due to the accumulation of microscopic scratches on the original porcelain from decades of normal use. He could "match" an entire stove's color to the original Chambers colors, but a single panel with new porcelain would be obvious.
If I were going to go this route, I'd just do the entire stove.
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Post by pipercollins on Oct 9, 2008 22:00:28 GMT -5
Has anyone used any of these for a red stove? Does IPE have a good match for Freedom Red, or would a re-enameled part stick out? IPE has near perfect matches for all the original Chambers colors. HOWEVER, no one can match 50-60 years of wear, oxidation, and micro-abrasion. So a new part on an old stove might be a perfect color match, but still stand out somewhat due to subtleties of the finish. Hard to say until you try. They will send out sample plates, but that might not provide enough surface area for comparison. With all that said, if you need to do a side panel, its doubtful anyone would notice if it didn't perfectly match. Or even a whole high back for that matter. But if you want to just do one door, that might stand out.
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Post by wannaredun on Oct 9, 2008 22:17:02 GMT -5
Okeydoke. IPE's price sheet doesn't mention the black edging; do they do that?
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Post by donmattera on Oct 10, 2008 7:19:01 GMT -5
The prices above for IPE are NOT current. I would call to get the current pricing. Yes they do put the edging on as well as the printing on the front panel. Don
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Post by FatFutures on Oct 10, 2008 8:31:12 GMT -5
I've got to replace the highback on a red 90c, I'm not worried about a match as this piece doesn't "touch" an other porcelain pieces.
Now, Big Mama is a different story. Her oven doors come in two pieces and, for some reason, the outer panels are all discolored. I don't mind normal wear, in many cases I feel it adds character. But, in this case, it just looks dirty! Nothing charming about it. I know there is no way that if I have those pieces redone (white) that they will match the existing porcelain. So, I am going to have them done in black. Changing the color makes me cringe a little, kinda feel like I am violating the old girl. LOL I the long run, I think it's a change for the better.
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Post by donmattera on Oct 10, 2008 8:37:33 GMT -5
If your using IPE for the red get color samples.They have 2 reds one is very close the other is way off the Chambers color. Don
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Post by berlyn on Oct 11, 2008 19:29:13 GMT -5
The prices above for IPE are NOT current. I would call to get the current pricing. Yes they do put the edging on as well as the printing on the front panel. Don I take it like everything else, they have gone up on prices too??
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Post by wannaredun on Oct 19, 2008 22:42:31 GMT -5
Thanks! I'm thinking it would be more cost-effective to reporcelain my entire (white) stove than to keep wishin, hopin, prayin for a red one in working condition. Besides, as much as I like Freedom Red I'd like a richer, bluer, cherry red even more.
When I mentioned this little economic fact of life to my husband, he immediately started talking about cobalt blue. Sacrilege, right?
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Post by annbro on Oct 21, 2008 10:48:42 GMT -5
I had mine re-porcelained in the darker of the IPEs two reds. To me, it is absolutely beautiful and I have no regrets. I know the other red is more similar to the original Chambers red, but I got the color samples and I liked the darker one better. I don't think cobalt is sacrilege at all. If you're spending all that money, get something you love.
IPE did my porcelain and they did a great job and Jeff is a very pleasant guy to work with. Be prepared for a heafty shipping bill. It's a real pain to pack up all the parts.
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Post by wannaredun on Oct 22, 2008 22:58:08 GMT -5
What do you mean by hefty? Hundred bucks hefty? Three hundred bucks hefty?
Now I'm worried.
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Post by annbro on Oct 23, 2008 10:53:42 GMT -5
I don't remember the exact figure, but on the order of 300 probably. Keep in mind I live in Seattle, so it's a long way to go, but by the time I packed everything up, it was several boxes that were big and heavy -- backsplash, side panels, oven and service doors, front panel, burners, grates, and drip pans. Anyway, it's a lot and you have to ship both ways. If you have a small business and you ship to a business, sometimes I think you get a deal.
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Post by wannaredun on Nov 2, 2008 22:38:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the info!
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Post by FatFutures on Jan 25, 2009 7:52:54 GMT -5
I just received updated pricing from Jeff Gaylord at IPE. I've updated the original post. Havent' heard back from Gigi yet...
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Post by chipperhiker on Jan 29, 2009 11:55:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, Michelle!
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Post by 58limited on Apr 25, 2009 16:43:01 GMT -5
I'm glad I found this site! After seeing the prices above, I think I can reasonably reporcelain the damaged items on my Chambers stove. I was just about to send out my O'Keefe burners and grates to the tune of $35-40 each. I'm glad I looked here first!
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Post by Chuckie on Jul 17, 2009 19:07:39 GMT -5
We just bought what I believe from looking at pictures to be a Model B Chambers. It seems to be in EXCELLENT condition as far as clean goes, but the front storage door has extensive damaged porcelain, but just around the knob. If we just have THAT door done, will it be noticeably different from the rest of the white stove surround? We are lucky(?) enough to live in Leavenworth, KS, just a short drive to Independence where we intend to have this done--should we be granted another weekend furlough from the Priz (thought I'd get that outta the way from the get go! . Anyone have any experience/ideas on the colour difference(s)? As an aside, I see where so many on here 'name' their stoves, and that has already happened with ours. My MIL has used a Chambers for some 40 years, and we took my inlaws out to look at this one in Lawrence, but she seemed disinterested, so my wife jumped on the bandwagon, and made a bid. The lady accepted. She then commenced to tell my wife that her Grandmother bought it brand-spanking new, she died in like 1980 something, and the stove has been sitting since. She also told my wife said Granny's name was Isabel, so I was instructed a-l-l-l-l-l-l the long, long way home by her and the inlaws to SLOW DOWN and BE SURE Isabel was still secured with the UMPTEEN tie-downs on the tilt trailer we used to transport it (errr--HER--excuse me!) home. I'm sure you'll be hearing from and pestered by ourselves MANY, MANY MORE TIMES as the restoration of "Izzy" commences... Back to subject, any input on the difference (how noticeable) on the white porcelains would be GREATLY APPRECIATED. It is also missing the top (hinges are still intact on the back), but I don't know that we'd ever use the durned thing if we had. Any source besides ebay for one of those? Signed, Izzy's Owners a/k/a Chuckie & wife Monkey
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Post by Chuckie on Jul 17, 2009 19:16:44 GMT -5
OOPS!!!! Feel like TOTAL EEJITS--read more posts above re: color betwixt new/old AFTER I posted ours!!!!! Mea culpa, just quick scanning, got all caught up in the excitement of getting started on the restoration...
Izzy's only been here less than 24 hours, and we're in la-la land!
Chuckie & Monk
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Post by FatFutures on Jul 20, 2009 6:21:01 GMT -5
WELCOME! And, 'grats on acquiring Izzy! As you have read, getting new porcelain to an exact match of existing stuff is near impossible. You might want to consider find an old replacement door. Still might not be an EXACT match but, odds are good that you'll get something quite close. And, you will spend less $$$. Check with Don Mattera, a member here, for replacement parts. He is a GREAT resource for most any Chambers that you might need. Also, be sure to check out www.vintagechambers.com... You'll find all sorts of wonderful info, including Chambers manuals (VERY valuable in the resto process), cookbooks and other neat pamphlets, all free to download. Welcome to Chambersland! LOL
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Post by Chuckie on Aug 3, 2009 22:17:15 GMT -5
Dear FF--thanks for the info, I may give Don a try--if I can figure out how to contact him! I have it torn down to the basics, top is off & on saw horses, need to remove T-well & broiler so I can take it to Independence to get re-porcelained. If Don has a white storage door front for less than I can get it done in IPE, I'll go for it! My wife ("Monkey") is absolutely FASCINATED with the restoration process, and can't BELIEVE I went this far--she was thinking it would just be an outside-on-the-enclosed-porch stove. She, too, has been involved in the hard work, and thinks Dawn Power Dissolver is the best thing since sliced bread! We thought the silverlite back was like a yellow until Monkey & DPD got done with it! Now shines like a diamond in a goats hiney! ;D My Da and I restored a 1919 Model T Ford pickup back in the 70's, and this kinda reminds me of that--tearing everything down to NOTHING, painting/cleaning/tuning it up, then putting it all back together. I sincerely hope I remember how things go on Izzy & get the same results as we did with the Model T!!!! Will post restoration pics when I get the Monkey to load them up. Chuckie
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