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Post by Chuckie on Aug 7, 2012 15:09:41 GMT -5
Some friends of ours gave us a coupla pawpaws. I made a cake out of one today. LOOKS good and the batter was FAB, but can't cut it until Monkey gets home from work!!! Here's the recipes: Pawpaw Cake • 1¾ c. flour • 1 tsp. baking soda • 1 tsp. baking powder • ½ tsp. salt • ½ c. milk • 1 Tbsp. lemon juice • ½ c. shortening • 1½ c. sugar • 2 eggs • 1 tsp. vanilla • ½ c. pureed pawpaw pulp • ½ c. chopped pecans or hickory nuts • 3 egg whites, beaten stiff Sift first four dry ingredients together. Combine milk and lemon juice and set aside to sour. Cream shortening, add sugar gradually, and beat until fluffy. Beat in eggs, one at a time. Add vanilla. Then add dry ingredients alternately with pawpaw puree and soured milk. Fold in the beaten egg whites and the chopped nuts. Pour into two lightly greased and floured 9-inch layer-cake pans. Bake in a moderate oven (350o F) 35 to 40 minutes. Frost with: Lemon Butter Cream Frosting• ½ c. butter • 1 Tbsp. lemon juice • grated lemon rind • 1 lb. confectioners’ sugar • 6 Tbsp. cream (approximately) Cream the butter until fluffy, using an electric mixer. Blend in the lemon juice and a small amount of grated lemon rind. Add the confectioners’ sugar gradually along with enough cream to make a frosting of the right spreading consistency. Run the beaters long enough to make the frosting very fluffy. Garnish the top of the frosted cake with a grating of lemon rind. CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by mcdesign on Aug 7, 2012 16:21:40 GMT -5
Dang, that looks delicious! I didn't know you were a pastry chef too. I am impressed.
Randy
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Post by karitx on Aug 7, 2012 16:48:25 GMT -5
Even though I'm don't know what a pawpaw tastes like, that sure looks good!
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Post by Chuckie on Aug 7, 2012 19:47:45 GMT -5
Dang, that looks delicious! I didn't know you were a pastry chef too. I am impressed. Randy I am NOT in ANY WAYS a 'pastry chef'. I just followed the recipe pretty much exactly... www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/pawpaw/recipes.htm Also, my Mater used to sell cakes from our home on the side, including wedding cakes. She also taught the Wilton Cake Decorating Class for awhile from our local JC Penneys. I learned a few tricks of the trade from her (i.e. starting from a cold oven, put wax or parchment paper in the bottom of the pan, start with thinned icing and apply a crumb coat, etc), although it's hard to TELL from this clobbered up cake! ;D CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by Chuckie on Aug 7, 2012 19:50:54 GMT -5
Even though I'm don't know what a pawpaw tastes like, that sure looks good! Been stated they taste like a cross betwixt a banana and a mango... Here's something from the University of Kentucky: Pawpaws have a creamy, custard-like flesh with a complex combination of tropical fruit flavors. They are most commonly described as tasting like banana combined with mango, pineapple, melon, berries, or other fruit. There is a considerable variety of flavors among wild pawpaws, ranging from awful to sublime. Most pawpaws taste good, some are truly wonderful, and a few are better for throwing than for eating. CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by pooka on Aug 7, 2012 20:01:09 GMT -5
That looks so good, & is a rare treat! Pawpaw are almost impossible to get. They're not commercially grown because they bruise easily & spoil quickly. You usually have to pick them from the wild if you know where they grow. Mom use to sing a song that the choirs was, "pickin' up pawpaws & puttin' em in your pocket, pickin' up pawpaws & puttin' em in your pocket, pickin' up pawpaws & puttin' em in your pocket. I don't remember the rest of the song.
I've heard people say they kind of taste like bananas or custard, but I've never had the pleasure myself. Thanks for the peek at least. ;D
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Post by Chuckie on Aug 7, 2012 21:08:05 GMT -5
That looks so good, & is a rare treat! Pawpaw are almost impossible to get. They're not commercially grown because they bruise easily & spoil quickly. You usually have to pick them from the wild if you know where they grow. Mom use to sing a song that the choirs was, "pickin' up pawpaws & puttin' em in your pocket, pickin' up pawpaws & puttin' em in your pocket, pickin' up pawpaws & puttin' em in your pocket. I don't remember the rest of the song. I've heard people say they kind of taste like bananas or custard, but I've never had the pleasure myself. Thanks for the peek at least. ;D I always heard the "♫ way down yonder in the paw-paw patch♪" song, but don't remember the rest of the lyrics!! You should have them up there, pooka, as they are also called an "Indiana Banana"!! And BTW, we cut it for dessert after supper, and it WAS GOOD!!! One pawpaw made a scant 1/2 cup of pulp, next time I'll do TWO. There is no overpowering spice in the recipe; Monkey said she could NOT taste the lemon @ all, but I did, although not an overpowering taste of lemon. The pawpaw taste is indeed a mixture of numerous fruits--mainly banana and mango--IMHO anyways... CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by karitx on Aug 7, 2012 22:31:21 GMT -5
Even though I'm don't know what a pawpaw tastes like, that sure looks good! Been stated they taste like a cross betwixt a banana and a mango... Here's something from the University of Kentucky: Pawpaws have a creamy, custard-like flesh with a complex combination of tropical fruit flavors. They are most commonly described as tasting like banana combined with mango, pineapple, melon, berries, or other fruit. There is a considerable variety of flavors among wild pawpaws, ranging from awful to sublime. Most pawpaws taste good, some are truly wonderful, and a few are better for throwing than for eating. CHEERS! Chuckie Well, I planted a pawpaw "tree" this year, but it is about 5" tall with two leaves. If it manages to survive our summer, I hope it produces fruits that are better for eating than throwing. Your cake looks even better sliced! Nom nom nom!
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Post by pooka on Aug 7, 2012 23:51:35 GMT -5
I know there are some wild trees in the area, but I don't know of any that people have in their yards or on their land.
There's a 240-acre state nature preserve of virgin timber near where I work that somehow never was cut down when the city grew around it. It has trees up to four hundred year old. I know there are some pawpaw trees in there, but I think the resident naturalist would take a dim view of me pinching a few wild pawpaw from his patch. ;D
When they built one of the local universities out in the county back in the late 60's, they built it on a farm my mom lived on when she was little. We went out to see the old two story white farmhouse up on the hill before they tore it down. The only tree around was a sickly looking pawpaw tree next to the house. It might have even had fruit on it come to think, but it didn't look too appetizing to my ten or eleven year old eyes at the time.
I've heard of the "Hoosier Banana", but never the "Indiana Banana", but I guess it's the same term unless you're a true "Hoosier" like me. Although nobody seems to know where the term "Hoosier" came from. ;D
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Post by eidos on Aug 8, 2012 0:26:04 GMT -5
Chuckie, is there a place around here to get the pawpaws?
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Post by Chuckie on Aug 8, 2012 10:54:31 GMT -5
Chuckie, is there a place around here to get the pawpaws? VERY RARELY will someone @ the LV Farmers Market have them. I know we bought some a few years ago I think from down there, and IF memory serves me, they were $2.00 or more each!!! IF we see that gal @ the Eagles Thursday night, I'll ask her if her grandson has anymore he'd like to part with. We have another one sitting on our kitchen counter, but it is FAR from ripe. CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by pooka on Sept 8, 2014 8:43:13 GMT -5
Chuckie, I heard this piece on NPR a few days ago & thought I remembered us discussing Pawpaws. They're in season now & Integration Acres is shipping them as the get ripe. They're selling two pounds for $11.00 & each order contains around four to six pieces (per pound) of fruit, depending on the size, shape and variety There's also a Pawpaw Festival at Lake Snowden in Albany, Ohio this coming weekend. One of the local brewery's is making a Pawpaw wheat beer. I thought I'd throw that out there for those who are interested. A Coming-Out Party For The Humble Pawpaw, Native Fruit Darling Integration AcresThe 16th Annual Ohio Pawpaw FestivalBuckeye Brewing
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Post by Chuckie on Sept 8, 2014 10:12:10 GMT -5
Chuckie, I heard this piece on NPR a few days ago & thought I remembered us discussing Pawpaws. Yes, I made a pawpaw cake a few years ago from some we received from friends of Monkey's Mom. This couple were born on the SAME DAY in the SAME YEAR. He died first, she went less than a week later--ironic but methinks purposely on her part! And the pawpaw source died w/them--unless someone shows up @ Farmer's Market w/them again, but they wanted like $25 A POUND that one year-- GEEZE! Thanks for posting the links, pooka. CHEERS! Chuckie p.s.--I just re-read my original posts. That particular gal is STILL alive--the one from the Eagles. Smiths were the couple that died; they were fairly wealthy--although "just old farmers"--and their sons wasted NO TIME selling their goods and land, alas!
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Post by pooka on Sept 8, 2014 11:53:13 GMT -5
I thought the price of $11.00 for two ponds that would consist of eight to twelve pieces was worth a try for some of us. I'd like to think I might venture into Wesselman Woods Nature Preserve, the 240-acre state nature preserve of virgin timber that I mentioned before & see if I might find some wild ones. I don't know if I can motivate myself for the hike in the woods in search of them. As a kid, we used to ride bikes on the trails in the woods. They don't allow that kind of thing since it became a state nature preserve. It is now protected forever I hope.
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Post by vaporvac on Sept 8, 2014 12:30:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up on the Festival. i was bummed I missed the famous Tomato Festival in Reynoldsburg again this year, so this might make up for it. I got nary a fruit this year due to the extremely cold winter. We're on the cusp of the range for bountiful harvest. My frien in Knoxville get tones. Still, I don't think I'll be ordering any. Theyre's not much furit to see ratio for that price and they don't ship well. This cake was delish, btw. i may just substitute pumpkin.
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Post by Chuckie on Sept 8, 2014 21:13:40 GMT -5
Mom use to sing a song that the choirs was, "pickin' up pawpaws & puttin' em in your pocket, pickin' up pawpaws & puttin' em in your pocket, pickin' up pawpaws & puttin' em in your pocket. I don't remember the rest of the song. pooka: I listened to the NPR story, and read the comments. Your Mom's song was in the comments, and here's what the gal that posted put: Where O Where is dear little Nellie? Where O Where is dear little Nellie? Where O Where is dear little Nellie? Way down yonder in the paw paw patch!
Come on boys, let's go find her Come on boys, let's go find her Come on boys, let's go find her way down yonder in the paw paw patch
Pickin up paw paws putt'n em in her pocket Pickin up paw paws putt'n em in her pocket Pickin up paw paws putt'n em in her pocket Way down yonder in the paw paw patch!I remember MY Mom singing the "way down yonder in the pawpaw patch" line though... CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by pooka on Sept 9, 2014 2:16:58 GMT -5
I just did a search for that song & apparently there are more versions of it than you have fingers & toes, but the last verse is always the same. I can't remember what the rest of the version mom used to sing. It sounds like a regional nursery rhyme song that you could customize. I may have also heard my dad or his family sing it. I can imagine a day before we had the flickering box of TV & now the computers & cellphones to distract us, we use to entertain ourselves mostly. I see kids & adults too singing this & changing the name to people they knew. You could sing it as long as you wanted by inventing a new name or different verses. I can imagine it was a game for kids but probably adults too.
When Indiana State University bought the farm property where my mom grew up, we went out to look at the old house before they tore it down. It was an ordinary two story white clapboard farmhouse. I remember there being a pawpaw tree up near the house & there was fruit on the ground & tree. It must have just been this time of year when they'd be coming ripe. Gosh, I just looked at the picture of the ground breaking. It was forty seven years ago, so I'd have been about seven, almost eight.
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Post by Chuckie on Aug 30, 2016 22:29:44 GMT -5
Some friends of ours gave us a coupla pawpaws. I made a cake out of one today. LOOKS good and the batter was FAB, but can't cut it until Monkey gets home from work!!! Here's the recipes: Pawpaw Cake • 1¾ c. flour • 1 tsp. baking soda • 1 tsp. baking powder • ½ tsp. salt • ½ c. milk • 1 Tbsp. lemon juice • ½ c. shortening • 1½ c. sugar • 2 eggs • 1 tsp. vanilla • ½ c. pureed pawpaw pulp • ½ c. chopped pecans or hickory nuts • 3 egg whites, beaten stiff Sift first four dry ingredients together. Combine milk and lemon juice and set aside to sour. Cream shortening, add sugar gradually, and beat until fluffy. Beat in eggs, one at a time. Add vanilla. Then add dry ingredients alternately with pawpaw puree and soured milk. Fold in the beaten egg whites and the chopped nuts. Pour into two lightly greased and floured 9-inch layer-cake pans. Bake in a moderate oven (350o F) 35 to 40 minutes. Frost with: Lemon Butter Cream Frosting• ½ c. butter • 1 Tbsp. lemon juice • grated lemon rind • 1 lb. confectioners’ sugar • 6 Tbsp. cream (approximately) Cream the butter until fluffy, using an electric mixer. Blend in the lemon juice and a small amount of grated lemon rind. Add the confectioners’ sugar gradually along with enough cream to make a frosting of the right spreading consistency. Run the beaters long enough to make the frosting very fluffy. Garnish the top of the frosted cake with a grating of lemon rind. CHEERS! Chuckie OMG, was out perusing craigslist tonight, got to the "free" section, and lookie what I found!!! Called the guy--sounds like QUITE the character!!! I told him I'd B-U-Y the paw-paws, I wanted to make another cake, and want to (re)try planting some. He says "there's seeds ALL OVER the ground, I gots like FIVE trees". After we talked on ( SEVENTEEN minutes!!) he says "you don't gotta plant no GAWD DAMN seeds, they come up like WEEDS around here, I'll GIVE you some trees!!" Goes on to say "you just gotta L-I-S-T-E-N to how the HELL I tell you to plant/ GROW the things, or they ain't a gonna GROW!!!" Went on to tell me he told "other city folks" how to grow them, but "they didn't listen, and they didn't grow SHIT!! I ASSURED him I'd LISTEN WELL, and he says "I thinks there's about FIVE down there now--some GOOD sized--that you can dig up IF you're a gonna LISTEN to how the HELL I tells you to PLANT them!!!" LOL, stay tuned, hope to head down ten-ish tomorrow (his timeframe instructions as to WHEN he's available are funnier than the above!!) CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by pooka on Aug 31, 2016 4:14:18 GMT -5
I may have to slip over to Wesselman Woods Nature Preserve & see if I can find any that are ripe. I wouldn't feel too guilty if I a liberated a few. These woods have been pretty much untouched aside from the Wabash/Erie canal running though it nearly two hundred years ago, then the railroad that runs next to the old canal. There was another old regional railroad that ran through the other side, but any remnant of it are all but gone now. There ought to be at least a few Pawpaw patches in there somewhere. I just brushed up on them at KSU Pawpaw Program. Their Pawpaw Planting Guide make them sound rather finicky to grow, but well worth it. You need more than one for cross pollination. The wild ones are a hit or miss to get a good one. They are like apples in that the seedlings are not like the parent tree. It can take three to five year to know what you've got. The young trees are sensitive to too much sun early on, so they're tough to get started. Stark Brothers Nursery wants $26.99 or $27.99 each for the trees depending on variety. According to KSUs information, Pawpaw trees generally reach full production by their 7th year, so they'll take patients.
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Post by Chuckie on Aug 31, 2016 9:49:58 GMT -5
I may have to slip over to Wesselman Woods Nature Preserve & see if I can find any that are ripe. I wouldn't feel too guilty if I a liberated a few. These woods have been pretty much untouched aside from the Wabash/Erie canal running though it nearly two hundred years ago, then the railroad that runs next to the old canal. There was another old regional railroad that ran through the other side, but any remnant of it are all but gone now. There ought to be at least a few Pawpaw patches in there somewhere. I just brushed up on them at KSU Pawpaw Program. Their Pawpaw Planting Guide make them sound rather finicky to grow, but well worth it. You need more than one for cross pollination. The wild ones are a hit or miss to get a good one. They are like apples in that the seedlings are not like the parent tree. It can take three to five year to know what you've got. The young trees are sensitive to too much sun early on, so they're tough to get started. Stark Brothers Nursery wants $26.99 or $27.99 each for the trees depending on variety. According to KSUs information, Pawpaw trees generally reach full production by their 7th year, so they'll take patients. Here ya go, gang! Get yo' toe tappin' shoes on!!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD7IpkiO2fMCHEERS! Chuckie UPDATE: Got 'em!!! The guy LOOKED like he talked--old straw hat w/crown worn through, and shabby bibbed overalls. He said "you don't wanna try to grow them by the goddamned SEEDS, you come back in FALL, and I'll give you some cuttings!" Seems the trees put out "runners". The way he described it, when you did them up--think asparagus crown---and you've GOT to take "dem runner roots too, or the sumbitches are gonna DIE on ya!" Will keep that in mind when I go back. Now off to the kitchen to bake the cake!! CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by nana on Aug 31, 2016 16:46:07 GMT -5
I have always wondered what one of those tasted like. They won't grow up here(yet--stay tuned for global warming!!) but that guy sounds like he knows a thing or two about pawpaws. You better listen to him. Or else!
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Post by pooka on Aug 31, 2016 23:35:39 GMT -5
Here's a good piece from NPR. There's a video with the story, but I heard it on the radio. There's some good visuals & descriptions. The Pawpaw: Foraging For America's Forgotten FruitThere's a couple of other stories too. One has a couple of recipes for Pawpaw Ice Cream & Pawpaw Pie. Stories About pawpawGood deal on the fruit. I didn't get over there today, Ran some errands, then got a call to take my sister to an appointment, then kill time till she's done, & run her a few places. That killed the day. I think I read about the transplanting suckers in the literature. I have to go back & review. I believe it said somewhere that transplanting them is a problem because they have very brittle roots pron to damage. Growing them in containers contains their root for better results. That old codger must know what he's talking about. Great wisdom can be couched in the most humble sources. Wesselman Woods Nature Preserve being virgin forest, the canopy can be over a hundred feet up but for the odd tree fall & the railroad/canal cut. that's where I'll have to search. Honestly they could be anywhere in there. I haven't been in there in years, so it might be a chore to try not to stray from the trails too much. They frown on that. We shall see.
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Post by nana on Sept 1, 2016 7:12:40 GMT -5
Pooka the scofflaw! Who knew?
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Post by vaporvac on Sept 10, 2016 15:42:21 GMT -5
Hey pooka, they're usually near a riverbed in the lowlands as they like it wet. They spread clonally and by seed. It was another bad year for our patch....late frost when setting flowers = no fruit. What a find Chuckie! That relationships a keeper. Still going to try this recipe with pumkim as it was fantastic the year I made it with pawpaw.
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