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Post by nana on Feb 5, 2021 12:59:58 GMT -5
I’ve lived as far south and west as Oklahoma, and as far north as I am right now in NY state. I’d say this is about right!😄
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Post by mach12 on Feb 5, 2021 15:28:56 GMT -5
Wow, they left out the West. We're pretty predictable along the whole West Coast, so my guess is: First level would be to form groups with spray cans to paint "stop the snow" all over the place. News reports would show cell phone clips. Next would be weather protests to block traffic and bust a few shop windows, and likely burn a couple of snow removal trucks. News reports would be on-site reports at that level. The third one would be to raid stores and malls and set them on fire. News reports are from "independent affiliates" and weather reports come from undisclosed locations.
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Post by pooka on Feb 5, 2021 15:33:09 GMT -5
I've lived at the southern tip of Indiana all my life. As a child, it seems like we had more snow more often then. In more recent years, we don't get much snow, & when we do, they're good at pretreating the streets with a beet juice mixture before, & plowing them once it hits. Some people do freak out, but most of us locals take it in stride. If the snow hits in the evening, often they're able to plow enough for the schools to open on time, or at least an hour delay. Some of the buses have to travel on rural roads, so that's often the reason for the delay.
Last year, the one snow event was just a few inches. It was little notice as far as slowing things down. This year, they predicted a few inches a few days ago, but it turned out to be a bust. We only got a light dusting that was gone in less than a day. We've had lots of rain recently. If it was colder, we'd have lots of snow. We've had our typical days in the 40s & nights in the 20s & 30s. We're expecting a cold snap next week end down to the teens & single digits, but it won't last long, & it'll be a dry cold, so no snow. Last year about this time, we had a day up to 70 degrees, but typically, if we're going to have any cold & nasty weather, the first two weeks of February is when we'll get it.
I'm well practiced at driving in all weather conditions after delivering pizzas for fifteen years. Even in my old two wheel drive Ford Ranger, & GMC S-15, I never got stuck, because I used my head & didn't get in a hurry & get myself into anything I couldn't get out of. As kids, we often laughed at southern towns that shut down for a scant few inches of snow. As an adult, I know it's because they are unaccustomed to it, & don't have the salt trucks & plows we have up north. It's not that the southerners are weak wimps. It's just when they get snow, they're like a fish out of water. They just aren't equipped to deal with it.
Around here, we've been know to get all kinds of weather often enough that we're prepared for anything. The year my dad died in 1978, we had a blizzard, & the river froze over. That was the first time that had happened since the 1930s. Most all our bridges are built above the hundred year lever, so heavy rain & flooding only have spotty effects on travel. I don't envy you folks up north that get feet of snow on a regular basis, but you're use to it. You either go with the flow, or you move south.
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Post by nana on Feb 5, 2021 16:36:17 GMT -5
Wow, they left out the West. We're pretty predictable along the whole West Coast, so my guess is: First level would be to form groups with spray cans to paint "stop the snow" all over the place. News reports would show cell phone clips. Next would be weather protests to block traffic and bust a few shop windows, and likely burn a couple of snow removal trucks. News reports would be on-site reports at that level. The third one would be to raid stores and malls and set them on fire. News reports are from "independent affiliates" and weather reports come from undisclosed locations. I guess the words “thou dost protest too much” mean something a little different out in the West!!😂😂
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Post by nana on Feb 5, 2021 16:40:39 GMT -5
And you’re right, Pooka. I shouldn’t be so snarky. It’s true that they’re not equipped for snow down south, and why should they be, after all? I don’t think I would fare too well in a hurricane. Or forest fire, or a bad earthquake, for that matter. All of which are way worse than a snowstorm. But it still is kind of funny!
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Post by Chuckie on Feb 5, 2021 23:25:04 GMT -5
I’ve lived as far south and west as Oklahoma, and as far north as I am right now in NY state. I’d say this is about right!😄 Uhhhhh, that is PRETTY MUCH accurate for us "Midwest" folks. We've a front heading our way this w/e, and ALL the "chicken little" weather peeps on our local TV stations are already declaring the end of the WORLD!!! We USED to have an "old guy", Larry Moore, who would say something along the lines of "come on people, IF you're from the Kansas City area, you have driven in this type weather ALL YOUR LIVES, get a grip!!!" Sadly, he's RETIRED now... *sigh* CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by pooka on Feb 6, 2021 3:07:31 GMT -5
Oh we're all fare game for a cordial chuckle in good humor. We're all pron to look foolish now & then. It healthier to laugh at ourselves as much as other laugh at us.
As I said, when I was younger, we thought it hilarious to see southerners slipping & sliding around in an inch or two of snow. Around here, we'd hardly notice a snow that light. Ice storms is what scares the heck out of me. We had one of those here a number of years ago that knocked the power out all over. Mine was out for three or four days. I was one of the last to get it back, because the line that was down was in the alley behind me & only served five houses. Driving on it was a death wish, but once they scrapped & salted the roads you could move at a creep. During that event, we got hit by the initial ice storm, then the temperature hardly got out of the teens for days, so nothing could thaw out. You learn to deal with is as best you can. I always enjoyed a good snow. I don't mind driving in it as long as it's not a blizzard, & there's no idiots to dodge.
We've got some good weather guys locally. They're usually the more jovial person on the news. But no one will ever top Marcia Yockey, who was the weather gal here for thirty five years when I was growing up. She had worked at the weather bureau for ten years before that. She knew her stuff, but she was a nut. Here's a clip I found of her. She hand drew her maps. She loved to mention obscure weather stations she'd become familiar with working at the bureau. In this clip, she mentioned we'd gotten eleven inches of snow.
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Post by nana on Feb 6, 2021 8:22:06 GMT -5
Our weather forecasters are starting to become pearl-clutchers as well, unfortunately. With climate change we’ve had some winters that could barely be called winter, or we go for too long stretches with above average temps and when we do get a cold snap they give all these warnings about the bitter temperatures, like we need to beware and hunker down until it passes. But if you look at what out average temps “should” be this time of year, it’s lows in the single digits and highs in the upper 20’s. That’s normal for us! But we’re spoiled this winter. We only had one stretch of below zero and that was only for a few days. And since that 38” in December, we’ve had pretty scant snow. And in a normal year, that 38” of snow would have been with us until the beginning of April, but it was all gone in a week. It came so early the ground hadn’t frozen yet, and then we had a week of 40’s and even some 50’s, and it all just soaked into the ground. I read somewhere that the scientists will be recalculating the temperature averages soon, I guess they do it every 20 years or so. It will be interesting to see what our new “normal” is going to be.
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Post by Chuckie on Feb 6, 2021 11:30:17 GMT -5
Oh we're all fare game for a cordial chuckle in good humor. We're all pron to look foolish now & then. It healthier to laugh at ourselves as much as other laugh at us.
As I said, when I was younger, we thought it hilarious to see southerners slipping & sliding around in an inch or two of snow. Around here, we'd hardly notice a snow that light. Ice storms is what scares the heck out of me. We had one of those here a number of years ago that knocked the power out all over. Mine was out for three or four days. I was one of the last to get it back, because the line that was down was in the alley behind me & only served five houses. Driving on it was a death wish, but once they scrapped & salted the roads you could move at a creep. During that event, we got hit by the initial ice storm, then the temperature hardly got out of the teens for days, so nothing could thaw out. You learn to deal with is as best you can. I always enjoyed a good snow. I don't mind driving in it as long as it's not a blizzard, & there's no idiots to dodge. We've got some good weather guys locally. They're usually the more jovial person on the news. But no one will ever top Marcia Yockey, who was the weather gal here for thirty five years when I was growing up. She had worked at the weather bureau for ten years before that. She knew her stuff, but she was a nut. Here's a clip I found of her. She hand drew her maps. She loved to mention obscure weather stations she'd become familiar with working at the bureau. In this clip, she mentioned we'd gotten eleven inches of snow.
We had a zany years ago, named Dan Henry on Channel 4. He was always talking about the "Tonganoxie Triangle". Tonganoxie is a VERY small village west of Leavenworth, one of dwayner's favorite places to visit, as he N-E-V-E-R says the name correctly!! Dan was always talking about the "massive storm that was headed our way, but was deflected towards the (pick a direction) by the Tonganoxie Triangle!!!" One year, old Dan was talking about "scattered snow flurries". They had metal weather maps back then before technology advanced, and would stick cloud, rain, or sun magnets on there for "effect". So Dan has a handful of these flat magnetic snowflakes--maybe as round as ping pong balls?--and he says something along the lines of "yes, we're gonna have scattered snow showers in the area, about like THIS!!", and he THROWS the handful of snowflake magnets @ the metal board, just figuring they'd go all over the Kansas City area map, as unpredictable as the snow was that was headed our way. Not a ONE stayed there--falling to the floor--and while the other anchors were laughing their ASSES off at his screw up, Old Dan NEVER batted an eye, looking str8 @ the camera and IMMEDIATELY deadpans, "BUT they're not gonna STICK!!!" He stole their thunder, and peeps STILL talk about that, all these years later!! And you know he was RIGHT?! Just a few flurries, too warm to "stick to the ground".
CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by dwayner2 on Feb 6, 2021 11:58:16 GMT -5
Down here it’s Hurricanes. Lord how they try and scare the crap out of everyone within a thousand miles of landfall.
We went more than 30 years without a major Hurricane hitting the TX coast but when one DID hit, I was impressed with how most people took warning and evacuated. When so many people move down here who never experienced a hurricane I figured they would blow it off and hang around to watch the storm. Nope, they played it smart and boogied out of town. 👍 I guess them retired Yankees are smarter then we Southerners give them credit for. 😃
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Post by pooka on Feb 6, 2021 13:35:51 GMT -5
With some of the very damaging Hurricanes in recent history, even northerners watch the news, & they're no fools. Blowing off a Hurricane is a real quick way to die. The only safe course of action is to get the heck out of Dodge & wait for it to pass.
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Post by mach12 on Feb 7, 2021 10:55:33 GMT -5
That region has sure been a tough one to set up a Naval museum. My last ship when I was in the Navy was a destroyer, USS Orleck, and after her final decommissioning we were able to bring her back to where she was built in Orange, TX. Things were moving along well setting her up as the centerpiece for a combined Naval museum and tribute to local industrial history until hurricane Rita hit. Orleck was damaged and the pier she was moored at was no longer safe, and there was no money to do a thing about it so we found a new home for her in Lake Charles, LA. Forward to last fall when Lake Charles took a direct from hurricane Laura and Orleck again suffered significant damage. We had already made arrangements to move her to Jacksonville, FL as the centerpiece of a new museum there and had funded a shipyard overhaul and tow but Covid hit and the shipyard was shut down. Fortunately we had her well insured and she showed again how tough she is. We have several other vessels we're moving out of the area too, but they're smaller and easier to find homes for. Maybe getting our stuff out of there will take some of the fun away for the hurricanes and they'll quit bothering Texas and LA? orleck.org/laura/
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Post by pooka on Feb 7, 2021 12:58:45 GMT -5
That USS Orleck sound like it's a hurricane magnet in it's retirement, but given that hurricanes are equal opportunity disasters, nowhere is really safe. But that's just the breaks of fate. Insurance companies call them, "Acts Of God". Unforeseeable calamities. No matter what the cataclysm, we find a way to muddle on.
I found this article about four of our local weather events. I lived through all these, except the 1918 blizzard. Living through stuff like this teaches us that the house of cards society we live in is no match for mother nature. But we're resilient enough to to muddle through & stack the cards back up again. Life always finds a way.
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Post by pooka on Feb 15, 2021 14:49:26 GMT -5
Well winter's vengeance has finally come home to roost, but only for a few days. It started snowing last night just as I left work with temperatures going down to around nine. They're predicting almost six inches today with a high around twenty, then down to seven tonight, & about the same for tomorrow, only no more snow till Wednesday with almost four inches & Thursday with another inch & a half. The temperature is suppose to bottom out tonight & tomorrow night at seven. Wednesday & Thursday will go up to the mid twenties with the added snow. Friday morning, it'll bottom out at nine. By Friday, they're saying low forties, but only down to thirty three with a little rain to wash it all away. By next week, we'll be back to our more more normal thirties/forties during the days, & twenties/thirties at night. The snow today is so fine, you almost can't see it coming down. It's the consistency of sand. I'm dreading getting out today for work. I may have to dig out my snowmobile suit to brace against this last blast of old man winter. We got a smattering of freezing rain last Wednesday & Thursday morning, but they had the roads pretty much cleared by that afternoon when I had to leave for work. I don't mind the snow so much. Even the bigger amounts. It's the bone chilling bitter cold that make me want to dive under cover till it passes. As I often say, the first two weeks of February is when we can get our worst winter weather if we're going to get it. Often we get nothing. We've had snow as late as Easter, but that's rare, & it's gone in a day or so. I'm ready for for some sunny warm weather as soon as possible. The one good thing about a nasty cold winter is it makes for fewer bugs come this spring & summer.
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Post by Chuckie on Feb 15, 2021 15:09:26 GMT -5
Well winter's vengeance has finally come home to roost, but only for a few days. It started snowing last night just as I left work with temperatures going down to around nine. They're predicting almost six inches today with a high around twenty, then down to seven tonight, & about the same for tomorrow, only no more snow till Wednesday with almost four inches & Thursday with another inch & a half. The temperature is suppose to bottom out tonight & tomorrow night at seven. Wednesday & Thursday will go up to the mid twenties with the added snow. Friday morning, it'll bottom out at nine. By Friday, they're saying low forties, but only down to thirty three with a little rain to wash it all away. By next week, we'll be back to our more more normal thirties/forties during the days, & twenties/thirties at night. The snow today is so fine, you almost can't see it coming down. It's the consistency of sand. I'm dreading getting out today for work. I may have to dig out my snowmobile suit to brace against this last blast of old man winter. We got a smattering of freezing rain last Wednesday & Thursday morning, but they had the roads pretty much cleared by that afternoon when I had to leave for work. I don't mind the snow so much. Even the bigger amounts. It's the bone chilling bitter cold that make me want to dive under cover till it passes. As I often say, the first two weeks of February is when we can get our worst winter weather if we're going to get it. Often we get nothing. We've had snow as late as Easter, but that's rare, & it's gone in a day or so. I'm ready for for some sunny warm weather as soon as possible. The one good thing about a nasty cold winter is it makes for fewer bugs come this spring & summer.
Monkey rode w/me to KC for 6 months Dr checkup. REALLY FINE blowing snow made visibility NIL, and actual temp on dash was -1. Went down to -13 last night--new record--only to go COLDER tonight!! Worse temp EVER around these parts was -23°, back in '89, and I was still carrying MAIL back then!! All they would tell us as we were leaving was "you boys take care out there,it's COLD "!! No shit Sherlock!! But we all survived, I think that was the time though I got mild frostbite on my "R" thumb--that's the one I moved mail with between houses, and letters don't "move" well with a glove on!! Stay warm,pooka, we'll do the same!! CHEERS!! Chuckie (SAD) UPDATE: Thawed out some pork cutlets to fry, and boiled a coupla spuds for supper. Thought a glass of white wine would compliment. Found out tonight that a box of Franzia Chardonnay Wine left on the ( enclosed) unheated back porch FROZE last night, as did ALL ME BEERS in the back porch refrigerator!!! Old Man Winter, this means W-A-R!!! Hit me where it HURTS!!!
CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by pooka on Feb 15, 2021 15:29:47 GMT -5
UPDATE: Work just called to say not to come in. They're going to close at three. I'm off the next two days, so it's a long weekend for me! I'm not going to set foot out the door till Thursday.
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Post by Chuckie on Feb 15, 2021 20:52:43 GMT -5
UPDATE: Work just called to say not to come in. They're going to close at three. I'm off the next two days, so it's a long weekend for me! I'm not going to set foot out the door till Thursday. (SAD) UPDATE: Thawed out some pork cutlets to fry, and boiled a coupla spuds for supper. Thought a glass of white wine would compliment. Found out tonight that a box of Franzia Chardonnay Wine left on the (enclosed) unheated back porch FROZE last night, as did ALL ME BEERS in the back porch refrigerator!!!
Old Man Winter, this means W-A-R!!! Hit me where it HURTS!!! CHEERS! Chuckie
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Post by mach12 on Feb 15, 2021 21:14:54 GMT -5
UPDATE: Work just called to say not to come in. They're going to close at three. I'm off the next two days, so it's a long weekend for me! I'm not going to set foot out the door till Thursday. Man, you take care in all that weather and cold and, as a guy I worked with used to say, don't let your pipes freeze - or the ones in your house either! Good thing you're not going to have to mess with going to and from work for a few days. We were all set to hunker down for the storms that passed here over the past week until my daughter called and asked whether I could take her to work, so I fired up the tractor and cleared everything out to the road, put the studded tire on the van (it's all wheel drive), and Dad's taxi service, established 1971, was at it again. Have her at work by 3 am, pick her up at noon, repeat.
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Post by pooka on Feb 15, 2021 21:58:12 GMT -5
This local weather is crazy. I just checked the forecast for the next ten days. It's suppose to go down to eight & nine Thursday & Friday. Then bounce back up to forty nine & fifty by Tuesday & Wednesday next week. Tonight it's going to go down to seven. These are unheard of lows, at least in my lifetime. Teens are uncommon here, but single digit occurrences, you can just about count on your fingers in my memory. I'll be ready for this winter to be over as soon as possible.
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Post by nana on Feb 16, 2021 9:07:02 GMT -5
UPDATE: Work just called to say not to come in. They're going to close at three. I'm off the next two days, so it's a long weekend for me! I'm not going to set foot out the door till Thursday. Everyone loves a snow day!!!! Although I guess if you have to give up 2 days of pay that mitigates the joy a little...Stay safe and warm! Layers, layers, layers. That’s the key. And real boots.
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Post by pooka on Feb 16, 2021 9:40:20 GMT -5
It's not as dire as you think. Tuesday & Wednesday are my normal days off, or my weekend, so I'm only missing one day, Monday. I'll call & have them add vacation hours to make up for the lost day. Here's a pic at 8AM from one of Chanel 7s tower cams. That's our old 1888 courthouse with the old jail across the street & The Soldiers & Sailors Memorial Coliseum from WWI. Off in the distance to the left, you can see a row of old grain silos. There used to be another row at a right angle to these, but they were torn down years ago. There's a plasma center & a Goodwill there now. I live about where the flag pole on the court house is pointed on the near north side. That's Indiana Highway 62 East cutting through the center of the pic.
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Post by mach12 on Feb 17, 2021 22:35:31 GMT -5
Man Pooka, I love that picture! I think one of the things I miss the most since I retired is traveling around the U.S., especially the Midwest. I'm always amazed at how you can go to the top floor of a building and see forever. I guess I've never been anywhere that I didn't like but especially enjoy your neck of the woods, especially the history. We've been kind of tied down taking care of my mother-in-law with her dementia the past couple of years but had to move her into a facility just before Covid hit so are finally planning some trips and looking forward to it. Assuming gasoline prices don't go through the roof...
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Post by pooka on Feb 18, 2021 10:15:10 GMT -5
Chanel 7 weather shows views from four tower cams around the area every morning. One downtown. One on the east side at US highway 62 & Interstate 69. One just across the twin bridges in what they call the US highway 41 strip of Henderson, KY, & one on the big blue bridge into downtown Owensboro, KY river front, which is upstream about forty miles. They give a great view of the weather for the morning commuters. The 41 strip cam can be the most dramatic, because it shows our downtown skyline such as it is. We only have a couple of really tall buildings. The tallest at nineteen stories is set to be torn down, because the cost to renovate it are too high. It was built in the 70s, but it's already outlived it's usefulness. It's the tall one to the right. Our city is at the top of a big horseshoe bend in the Ohio, so what you see in the pic bellow is a finger of Kentucky jutting up into Indiana. Downtown Henderson is actually down stream from us about twelve mile where a railroad bridge across the river at Dogtown comes into their downtown. At one time, all train cars crossing the river had to change all their wheels in Howell Yard, because the southern railroads used a different gauge tracks than the northern railroads.
When you look at long shots like this, it makes you feel a little smaller in the grand scheme of things.
Here's a link to the tower cam page for Chanel 7.
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Post by mach12 on Feb 18, 2021 12:40:28 GMT -5
My wife's grandfather was from a little town just South of Henderson called Gus, KY. His family had the general store and post office there until the post office closed in the mid 50's. When he went to work for the railroad he worked in Evansville for a year and then was transferred to Omaha for another year. After that he was assigned as the stationmaster of a little depot in Elmwood, NE and worked there the rest of his life. Until I saw this picture I never put two and two together but my wife has a cousin who lives in Evansville that has helped me a lot with genealogy research and we're supposed to come down and have her take us around to meet all the family around there and down around Gus. Not sure we'll be able to this year but if not, next year looks good. Brain surgery really caused me to reprioritize and I'm not waiting to do this stuff any longer.
I'm still amazed at how we can sit and view place on real-time camera's like in your link. I wonder how many times a day we're on camera?
we're videoed or h
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Post by jhmack on Feb 18, 2021 13:43:11 GMT -5
Thanks, Pooka, for posting the photos--I grew up in St. Paul, and the sight of old brick buildings, a river, and snow covered ground always makes me smile. Here in the Washington, D.C. area, we're getting snow and ice today. So much so that the federal government closed most of its offices, so I have a day off!
Naturally, I am baking. Just took a bundt cake out of the oven--not a Chambers, alas (they are at our farm in the mountains, whose buildings have joists and timbers that are up to a Chambers' weight. Our townhouse joists couldn't support one!).
Glad you're doing okay, mach12 and all. Fun to check in read what folks have been doing. Best regards to all. Jane
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Post by jhmack on Feb 18, 2021 13:45:40 GMT -5
Thanks, Pooka, for posting the photos--I grew up in St. Paul, and the sight of old brick buildings, a river, and snow covered ground always makes me smile. Here in the Washington, D.C. area, we're getting snow and ice today. So much so that the federal government closed most of its offices, so I have a day off!
Naturally, I am baking. Just took a bundt cake out of the oven--not a Chambers, alas (they are at our farm in the mountains, whose buildings have joists and timbers that are up to a Chambers' weight. Our townhouse joists couldn't support one!).
Glad you're doing okay, mach12 and all. Fun to check in read what folks have been doing. Best regards to all. Jane
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Post by karitx on Feb 19, 2021 17:06:03 GMT -5
Okay, whoever sent this weather to Texas, can you please take it back now? I would rather enjoy it from other people's photos from now on! We had almost 8" of snow, followed by several inches of sleet/freezing rain and down to -1F one morning. Many people were without electricity and running water during the worst of the cold (and some still are) but we were very fortunate (especially for living out in the sticks) and everything stayed functional. I've gone through almost 80 pounds of birdseed, though. The poor birds that winter here are demanding refunds for this trip. We finally got "up" to freezing today, so there's a little melting going on, but it's supposed to be 17F again tonight, so it's going to be icy again in the morning. Next Wednesday is supposed to be in the mid-60s. This is some wild weather!
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Post by nana on Feb 19, 2021 19:00:54 GMT -5
So glad you came through without too much trouble. I feel even more terrible about being snarky now. Single digits and below zero is cold for up here, but down there where no one expects it it can be fatal, and has been. At least up here we have insulated homes and most people have woodstoves or know a neighbor who does for when the there’s an extended power outage. I’m praying for your weather to warm up soon!
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Post by karitx on Feb 19, 2021 21:14:56 GMT -5
No worries! We always laugh when we see other places having a "heat wave" because they are almost always lower than what we call normal for summer. And it is a fact that no one here can drive on icy roads! We do have a wood stove for heat and a generator in case we lose electricity. The generator was in a trash pile, so I asked if I could take it. It turned out it just needed a tune-up and a battery. It was one of my better scores!
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Post by cinnabar on Feb 19, 2021 21:26:10 GMT -5
Karitx, don't worry about the Cardinals, they hang out here all year. I'm sure you have others that are not as happy with the cold. Nice picture. We just got over 0 today for the first time in 14 days. Broke a few records. I daresay you get acclimated to the cold, but it doesn't mean you like it. Once it gets below -10 it sort of all feels the same unless the wind is wicked. Our furnace was inspected in October and passed, but last Thursday it decieded to cut off at will. The air temp that day was -19 wind chill -29. The next day the new furnace arrived and was all done by 4 in the afternoon. The high that day was -24, windchill -39. We had the fireplace going and the little heaters on the sinks and were ok, also did some serious baking with the Chambers. City water lines here break, but most near us are over 100 years old. They are also buried 8 feet or more. If we had more snow the ground would be better insultated, but only about a foot and a half all winter. I learned a while back to keep several gallons of water in supply in case of a break. Glad you are ok, and you will back to normal temps soon. I'll be glad if we get some snow and when my car tires aren't squared off going whump, whump, whump down the road. I did not have wear long johns the past 2 days, what a treat that has been!
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