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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 2, 2016 22:50:03 GMT -5
flic.kr/p/Dcm5RHfirst sight, my husband could finally move her from the conex container to the warm garage so that I could work on her. Supposedly she had one small chip, redone Chrome and porcelain. So, I expected a clean stove in good shape that simply needed reassembly. Unfortunately, the seller "fabricated" a little. There were multiple chips (thankfully mostly on side panels, which will be hidden) and one was the size of a half dollar. The chrome and porcelain on burners and pans was redone, but my assumption that she was clean and awaiting reassembly was sadly mistaken. flic.kr/p/DhjnfUBut many hours of scrubbing, painting, begging for help on the other site from forum members both here and there, she is beautiful. Not checked for leaks yet, and obviously not calibrated. I have NO idea if her thermostat works, but she is in much better shape cosmetically and clean.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 2, 2016 22:57:20 GMT -5
Cleaning and painting has taken me countless hours (i have worked ten hours straight most days) just to get her to this point
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 2, 2016 23:21:38 GMT -5
these two parts have baffled me since the beginning, but I now think I know what they are. I saw someone else whose chambers had the chrome script logo and a small oval numbered tag like mine. The aluminum panel that had the model number was "missing" until I realized someone scrubbed the living daylights out of the thing. It no longer has the approval logo, model number, or anything but a faint outline of the same number on the aluminum oval tag. so I "think" that indicates the number, and I know the model is a 90C.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 2, 2016 23:25:19 GMT -5
it starts with a 2, don't recall the whole tag number (it is out in the new house, and I am in the old with a cold). Does that mean it was manufactured in 1952? if so, I believe Pooka's research means it was manufactured in Mississippi. She also has the chrome and white dials (no color).
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Post by pooka on Feb 3, 2016 2:59:57 GMT -5
If it starts with a 2, that would be 1952. They were still being made in Shelbyville, IN then. I believe the plant moved in 1955 to Oxford, MS.
I've heard other members say the little oval tags were clipped to the chassis somewhere. Kind of a preliminary tag at the beginning of the assembly line to tell them what to build. They put the bigger tag on at the end of the line. I believe stoves were pretty much built to order.
The chrome and white dials look like they're from a later stove. In 1952, I'd think they were still using the porcelain dial knobs. Perhaps the original ones were bashed or at least cracked or chipped. They just replaced them with those later painted dial knobs. Perhaps in time, you can keep an eye out for the right one & swap them back. For now those will work. We're not that persnickety about it being exactly period correct. As long as it works, it's like children everywhere. They are all beautiful in their own way.
With the labor of love you've put into Patience, she is now a member of the family. The longer you use her, the more endearing she will be. You may come to like her more than some of your relative, but I'm sure they're all sweet people.
We like to think these stoves go to their forever homes. At least for another generation. Ownership of one can be a lifetime commitment if you choose. It's one of the few things in life you can still say that about. Having & rehabbing one can teach you as much about yourself as it can about stoves. It's a contemplative endeavor to throw yourself into this task til the end. Come hell or high water, you'll figure this thing out, & be a better person because of it at the other end.
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Post by nana on Feb 3, 2016 7:58:32 GMT -5
Pooka is right. Endearing is such an apt word. There is such a charm to Marilyn, it's like having a friend in the kitchen, not a piece of equipment.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 4, 2016 1:31:24 GMT -5
Pooka, what I found odd is that "Dottie," the other stove I have found pictures of also had the chrome script name and the same white dials without color. That is what makes me think it is original. Could it be?
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Post by vaporvac on Feb 4, 2016 11:55:02 GMT -5
I have one with the chrome script. I'll try to remember to look today. where was the oval number originally?I think I'll start a post with serial numbers and descriptions. It could be interesting to see how they correlate.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 4, 2016 22:46:19 GMT -5
I have one with the chrome script. I'll try to remember to look today. where was the oval number originally?I think I'll start a post with serial numbers and descriptions. It could be interesting to see how they correlate. Vaporvac, the tag was in a bag of loose hardware, so no help there.
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Post by vaporvac on Feb 4, 2016 23:28:33 GMT -5
I actually remembered to look. My dials look like a white enamel exterior with chrome interior, just like yours. I'm thinking they're original to stoves with the chrome script logo. I'll have to look if posted the serial number. she's a 41C so that will be interesting as I don't know when they were offered. She's under wraps or I'd just take a look.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 5, 2016 0:43:32 GMT -5
20720 was my serial number, if I remember correctly. The other 90c that had the same script logo and dials was made in '52 as well.
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Post by wizardoftrance on Feb 5, 2016 19:09:59 GMT -5
My 90C is from 1951 and has the colored chambers name plate and porcelain knobs.
I looked at all the pictures of 90C's that I could find and there are actually 3 different ways they put the chambers name on them.
1. Name plate with background color coded to the porcelain color of the stove. 2. Name plate with red porcelain background with the chambers name through the center (same as #1 but in that ruby red porcelain as the background) (found this on stoves of different colors also) 3. The chrome chambers name with no background.
The porcelain knobs were present on both #1 and #2 types... but not #3.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 5, 2016 22:24:35 GMT -5
Thanks, Wizard, that clears that up! So, they are original. Now, can anyone tell me whether there were long stem and short stem timers, and which went to the chrome script chambers?
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Post by vaporvac on Feb 5, 2016 23:33:58 GMT -5
I don't see a split stem so I think it's short stem. One of my 61Cs has it and the other doesn't and they're both porcelain escutcheon plates and date to 1951. I think I posted about it on the rangers site in A Tale of Two Cs. I would think you'd have noticed if it broke. More likely it's the spring. The same thing happened to one of mine I think.
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Post by chipperhiker on Feb 6, 2016 0:32:51 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that what are called "short stem timers" are actually broken stem timers. They had a pressure/friction fitting at the base of the stem to the dial, and it eventually fails. I put up a post with pics about the timers once upon a time. I'm only using a cell phone right now, so I can't do a real search for it. Maybe someone will take pity on me and post a link?
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Post by vaporvac on Feb 6, 2016 20:05:38 GMT -5
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Post by chipperhiker on Feb 6, 2016 20:30:33 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that for me, vaporvac! (And you never have any reason to be sorry!!!)
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 6, 2016 23:21:23 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. It looks like a lost cause. Guess I need to try to get that stub out of my dial (without breaking it). Please tell me things won't keep breaking on Patience from here on out once she is completely "fixed" and calibrated! I am retired, and definitely not made of money.
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Post by mach12 on Feb 7, 2016 2:27:43 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. It looks like a lost cause. Guess I need to try to get that stub out of my dial (without breaking it). Please tell me things won't keep breaking on Patience from here on out once she is completely "fixed" and calibrated! I am retired, and definitely not made of money. The most common things I can think of are the timer, the springs for the oven and utility cabinet doors, and the light on the backsplash of the 90C. Sometimes the three screws that hold the broiler lift handle together shear (normally just one goes and if it doesn't get replaced the other two are not too far behind). I'm probably forgetting something but those are the ones that come to mind.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 7, 2016 12:42:58 GMT -5
So should I have replaced all those things? I really don't want to take it apart again, but sooner rather Than later!
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Post by mach12 on Feb 7, 2016 16:09:10 GMT -5
No need to change them out - I'm of the "don't fix it if it ain't broke" mind. It's just good be aware just in case. The only one that are somewhat of a project are the oven door springs (though they're way easier than an A series!) and the light, since it requires a modification. Neither prevents the stove from working if they do fail at some point. On the broiler lift handle it's good to know info and really, if you see it getting loose and some shifting between the chrome parts and the black spacer, you can just pull the handle and snug up the screws so that you head off the problem. The utility cabinet door springs are in the open inside the utility cabinet so can be done while you're Cooking With The Gas Turned Off. Personally, I always replace the door springs in pairs, but that's just me. I also coat the areas where they rub on sheet metal and the hooks and ends with high temperature anti-seize.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 7, 2016 17:07:02 GMT -5
Thanks Mach 12! I had visions of tearing it apart at thanksgiving. Murphy visits me sometimes, usually at the worst time.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 7, 2016 17:08:51 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that what are called "short stem timers" are actually broken stem timers. They had a pressure/friction fitting at the base of the stem to the dial, and it eventually fails. I put up a post with pics about the timers once upon a time. I'm only using a cell phone right now, so I can't do a real search for it. Maybe someone will take pity on me and post a link? Thanks, Chipperhiker, that was a fabulous explanation. Having never seen a Chambers "in the flesh" until Patience's unveiling, it is so nice to have the expertise of others to fall back on.
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 7, 2016 18:49:42 GMT -5
Still having trouble getting really small flames in broiler. Does anyone have pics of what it should look like?
Also, need more of the small tubing for oven safety valve. Product number for patriot supply no longer works. Anyone know what product number I should be using?
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Post by mach12 on Feb 7, 2016 21:05:29 GMT -5
Still having trouble getting really small flames in broiler. Does anyone have pics of what it should look like? Also, need more of the small tubing for oven safety valve. Product number for patriot supply no longer works. Anyone know what product number I should be using? If you're looking for the 1/4", ROBERTSHAW 11-293 gets 5 feet and some fittings for $10.62. Link: Patriot Supply 1/4" Alum. Tubing
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 7, 2016 21:11:19 GMT -5
i finally found it. They wanted $35 to send it to me!!!
I found the same kit on Amazon!! Free shipping. Will order today.
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Post by vaporvac on Feb 7, 2016 22:13:27 GMT -5
You should post the link if you still have it!
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Post by evangeline on Feb 8, 2016 9:17:50 GMT -5
The Stove Lady has a video on YouTube showing all the burners in action. Would that help? (Sometimes I watch it just for kicks, while I'm waiting for my stove to arrive - schedule in a week or so!) On Youtube just search by 'Chambers Stove'
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Post by vaporvac on Feb 8, 2016 13:19:59 GMT -5
You are ate up, evangeline!
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Post by kellyjo40 on Feb 8, 2016 16:23:53 GMT -5
You should post the link if you still have it! Amazon: pilot burner tubing-Robert shaw They have a LOT of Robert Shaw stuff.
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